From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: I am confused: why Emacs keybindings in OS X? Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:43:18 +0100 Message-ID: <20160127084318.GD25424@tuxteam.de> References: <52c0bcab-c37e-4ecb-960e-5b46dcc10c2f@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453886312 5451 80.91.229.3 (27 Jan 2016 09:18:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:18:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 27 10:18:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aOMFB-0004WS-G4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 10:18:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48680 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aOMFA-0001tL-Jz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 04:18:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47278) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aOMF1-0001tD-1z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 04:18:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aOMEs-0001o7-06 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 04:18:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:53054 helo=tomasium.tuxteam.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aOMEr-0001eW-OU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 04:18:09 -0500 Original-Received: from tomas by tomasium.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aOLh8-0006li-RI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:43:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: <52c0bcab-c37e-4ecb-960e-5b46dcc10c2f@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108880 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:34:04AM -0800, Alan wrote: > Enigmas or Cruel Jokes? > > 1. Emacs is hardly found in any GNU/Linux distro, except if installed by oneself. Yet, in OS X, it is there, ready to go. ???? What is the history of this? Yes, but watch out. Unless things have changed since I last looked, Gnu software installed by default on Apple (it's not only Emacs, but also among many things, bash) tends to be somewhat... seasoned. I had the impression that they stopped updating things whenever they moved to GPLV3 (Steve Jobs's ghost or whatever?). > I am NOT comfortable with a few ethical/philosophical issues [...] Thanks for the "report". regards - -- tomás -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlaogyYACgkQBcgs9XrR2kaOpQCfYxTj17FkGD1otjKAw6HgV9Oo LuAAn06/LJo5M5sgbJDV/MH+m8H/44wW =fyZ8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----