From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Missing frame parameters on tty's Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:03:32 +0000 Message-ID: <20160118170332.GB3390@acm.fritz.box> References: <20151202221534.GC2318@acm.fritz.box> <83vb8ghtnx.fsf@gnu.org> <20151203083001.GA2136@acm.fritz.box> <83oae7j07y.fsf@gnu.org> <20151203111815.GE2136@acm.fritz.box> <83lh9bix4k.fsf@gnu.org> <20160118160213.GA3390@acm.fritz.box> <83ziw2dg0y.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453136537 31608 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2016 17:02:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 18 18:02:09 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aLDBo-0005mx-IS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:02:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60922 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLDBn-0002ob-5u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:01:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49832) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLDB7-0001Zu-N6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:01:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLDB2-0003qF-BK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:01:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.muc.de ([193.149.48.3]:26078) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLDB2-0003pr-2Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:01:12 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 13437 invoked by uid 3782); 18 Jan 2016 17:01:07 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p548A43BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.138.67.186]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:01:05 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 4547 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Jan 2016 17:03:32 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83ziw2dg0y.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x X-Received-From: 193.149.48.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198261 Archived-At: Hello again, Eli. On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 06:11:09PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:02:14 +0000 > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > From: Alan Mackenzie > > --- a/doc/lispref/frames.texi > > +++ b/doc/lispref/frames.texi > > @@ -1188,8 +1188,8 @@ Position Parameters > > @cindex window position on display > > @cindex frame position > > - Position parameters' values are normally measured in pixels, but on > > -text terminals they count characters or lines instead. > > + Position parameters' values are measured in pixels. None of them > > +exist on text terminal frames. > I'd suggest something like > (Note that none of these parameters exist on text-mode frames.) OK, but I'm not too keen on "text-mode" frames - there's a danger of confusion with the major mode of that name. How about: (Note that none of these parameters exist on text terminal frames.} , using the original term "text terminal", but keeping the sentence in parenteses? After all, the main purpose is to alert Emacs Lisp hackers to the possibility of these frame parameters being nil; exactly when they are going to be nil is of secondary importance. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).