From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Missing frame parameters on tty's Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:02:14 +0000 Message-ID: <20160118160213.GA3390@acm.fritz.box> References: <20151202221534.GC2318@acm.fritz.box> <83vb8ghtnx.fsf@gnu.org> <20151203083001.GA2136@acm.fritz.box> <83oae7j07y.fsf@gnu.org> <20151203111815.GE2136@acm.fritz.box> <83lh9bix4k.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453132811 28905 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2016 16:00:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 18 17:00:03 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aLCDq-0008LJ-An for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:00:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60472 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLCDm-0005W5-MR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:59:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60094) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLCDi-0005Vn-J8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:59:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLCDf-0004EL-Vj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:59:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.muc.de ([193.149.48.3]:26844) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLCDf-0004Dg-Mb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:59:51 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 99273 invoked by uid 3782); 18 Jan 2016 15:59:49 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p548A43BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.138.67.186]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:59:47 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 3484 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Jan 2016 16:02:14 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83lh9bix4k.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x X-Received-From: 193.149.48.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198258 Archived-At: Hello, Eli. On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 01:34:35PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 11:18:15 +0000 > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > From: Alan Mackenzie [ .... ] > > Anyhow, I've been reading the "Window Frame Parameters" chapter in the > > Elisp manual, in particular "Position Parameters". The description of > > `left' and `top' immediately follow a statement that measurements on a > > TTY are in terms of characters or lines. This cannot help but give the > > impression `left' and `top' _are_ available on TTYs. Perhaps if we > > aren't going to give TTYs these parameters, we should amend that manual > > page to say explicitly that TTYs don't have them. > Patches to that effect are welcome. How about this one, then? diff --git a/doc/lispref/frames.texi b/doc/lispref/frames.texi index 5d873ac..18932cb 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/frames.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/frames.texi @@ -1188,8 +1188,8 @@ Position Parameters @cindex window position on display @cindex frame position - Position parameters' values are normally measured in pixels, but on -text terminals they count characters or lines instead. + Position parameters' values are measured in pixels. None of them +exist on text terminal frames. @table @code @vindex left, a frame parameter > Thanks. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).