From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: technology and politics/ideology Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:34:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20160113073446.GB12287@tuxteam.de> References: <87bn8qc8f4.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452672656 7364 80.91.229.3 (13 Jan 2016 08:10:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:10:56 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 13 09:10:51 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aJGVu-0001qQ-Rb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:10:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35801 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aJGVt-0008Bz-SP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 03:10:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38263) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aJGUu-0007J6-3b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 03:09:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aJGUr-0006LS-Do for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 03:09:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:40544 helo=tomasium.tuxteam.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aJGUr-0006KP-7y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 03:09:37 -0500 Original-Received: from tomas by tomasium.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aJFx8-0003O9-8k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:34:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87bn8qc8f4.fsf@debian.uxu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108707 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 07:14:55AM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: OK, I'll bite, but just... once: > The people who use the best technology are the best ...technology users (as opposed to parents, teachers technology makers, midwifers, agricultors, poets). > and have the best views and attitudes. ...the best (technology users') views and attitudes. Even in this restricted setting this sentence seems iffy, at best. But hey. OK for thinking out loud; no progress if no trials are made :-) As to the rest -- interpreted I seem to read out of it: "lead by example and they will come". But the signal is so weak that I could be making it up, seeing foxes and spotted owls in some cloud pattern. Sorry for my broken sensors. regards - -- t -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlaV/hYACgkQBcgs9XrR2kbMaQCfX/7gkVA8JQb991+sFdVgAMCO 1poAnjGhfeHHLIkVMiOzbO6FUd7zIufN =M9vp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----