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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 17453@debbugs.gnu.org, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#17453: Isearch doesn't work properly with Follow Mode.
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 08:35:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151103083502.GA2258@acm.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83wpu0watk.fsf@gnu.org>

On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 07:49:43PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 16:09:17 +0000
> > Cc: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, juri@linkov.net, 17453@debbugs.gnu.org,
> >   monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
> > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>

> > > If this means that sit*-for does something other than redisplay and
> > > wait, like switch to another window, I'd really suggest to rethink
> > > that.  It is entirely counter-intuitive to have a sit-for family of
> > > functions do anything other than some kind of redisplay and some kind
> > > of waiting.

> > sit*-for's synchronising windows, switching to the appropriate window,
> > etc., is conceptually an extension of redisplay's scrolling to get point
> > on screen.

> No, redisplay doesn't necessarily scroll.  It does so only if needed.
> So sit-for should not be thought as a way to scroll the window, even
> if sometimes it does.

Redisplay scrolls sometimes, and it moves point sometimes.  But it does
those things only when needed for the actual display.  Similarly the
sit*-for, invoking display would do other things strictly necessary for
successful redisplay.  That sometimes would include resynchronising the
windows, for example.

> > But I think sit*-for could well be not needed here, anyway.

> That's okay, but my point is: please do not add to established
> functions code that does on behalf of Follow mode something that
> conceptually doesn't belong to those functions.  OK?

Fine!

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).





  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-11-03  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-09 22:44 bug#17453: Isearch doesn't work properly with Follow Mode Alan Mackenzie
2014-05-10  2:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-11 12:58   ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-05-11 16:09     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-11 18:18       ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-05-11 19:05         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-11 20:40           ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-05-11 21:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-29 23:23   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-31 22:35     ` John Wiegley
2015-10-31 22:35     ` John Wiegley
2015-10-31 23:25       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-31 23:25       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-31 23:41         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-31 23:41         ` John Wiegley
2015-11-01 11:59           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 11:59           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01  0:17       ` Drew Adams
2015-11-01  0:17       ` Drew Adams
2015-10-31 23:13     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-31 23:32       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 12:20         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-01 12:20         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-01 12:23           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-01 12:23           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-01 13:52             ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 16:50               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-01 18:27                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 19:46                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-01 20:15                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 21:37                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-01 20:42                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-01 20:54                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-01 22:19                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-31 23:32       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-31 23:13     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-31 23:35     ` Juri Linkov
2015-10-31 23:35     ` Juri Linkov
2015-10-31 23:56       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-31 23:56       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02  0:14         ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02  0:14         ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02  3:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02  3:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02  9:28           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 11:53             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 11:53             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 12:14               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 12:39                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 12:39                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 12:14               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 12:35               ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 12:35               ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 13:10                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 14:18                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 14:18                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 15:44                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 15:44                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 16:26                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 16:35                         ` Drew Adams
2015-11-02 19:18                           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 19:28                             ` Drew Adams
2015-11-02 23:45                               ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02 22:09                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 23:00                           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-03  9:18                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 17:45                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 23:22                       ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-03 12:31                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-03 12:31                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-03 15:49                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 16:18                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-03 22:11                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-04  0:28                                 ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-04  9:01                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-04 10:17                                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 12:38                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-05 17:13                                         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 12:59                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-07 13:38                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 10:32                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-03 16:39                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 23:22                       ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02 23:28                     ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02 23:28                     ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02 13:10                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 15:46                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 16:09                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 17:49                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 20:35                       ` John Wiegley
2015-11-03  8:35                       ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <<831tc8xv39.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-11-02 16:05                   ` Drew Adams
2015-11-02 23:33             ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02 23:33             ` Juri Linkov
2015-10-29 23:23   ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found] ` <handler.17453.B.139967578531952.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2015-12-20 12:59   ` bug#17453: Acknowledgement (Isearch doesn't work properly with Follow Mode.) Alan Mackenzie

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