From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Werner LEMBERG Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add shell-quasiquote. Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 21:48:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20151020.214835.278236566.wl@gnu.org> References: <87wpuhh15s.fsf@T420.taylan> <562683B9.1060305@yandex.ru> <87fv15gybo.fsf@T420.taylan> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445370608 10245 80.91.229.3 (20 Oct 2015 19:50:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 19:50:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, youngfrog@members.fsf.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: taylanbayirli@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 20 21:50:01 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zocv0-00041r-LA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 21:49:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47758 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zocv0-0005Be-6W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 15:49:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34686) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zocty-0004WC-VV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 15:48:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zoctu-0005fe-V9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 15:48:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:61997) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zoctu-0005fR-Ok for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 15:48:50 -0400 Original-Received: from gnu.org ([178.165.129.162]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0ML72n-1Zou0y0YQj-000II1; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 21:48:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87fv15gybo.fsf@T420.taylan> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.7rc2 on Emacs 25.0.50.1 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:F47CKXZObEGwVJ8P1qp2f01PO75t82jp8sXVktT1QSW/cOmgyl2 3CtnOkGC8hks8cePnOI44tGRxZmUCP5WsNox/30ZwbxRw/vBpHCOQUIofHmPWlS5p1RwtA4 rzYFVC8fhY6qEPLUzkPP3q045A9CIMsjFfjh/Kg1d8nTM4F8YeriWlg+GqjmCkd9SglNL4u iTE7gS7dTmvXAA2yIfWTg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:xZUewtCj75Q=:JbbA7qAzTEI2ITpGbxShiP hSN6nbpZQakXqA9NM8ZB7JEwx9EopgcGgzE9RI1V5WKvTtJ3uw2NDapdjf1ZQ4s4ZaxSGJfQj tFKUuIzC+iceTIsv4TTiwckrUdAlRvP6BwIY03eDUJyWTeOg+ZFd0CeWOHt0o1bTWWq/FkuRf AC0MaBJPlsxs3ipKdwci6fCGKjuPqJoaMFRv0MpwXP/+bdiobm7q4YNxb2NjYBR2NmPkPPsSF 7nBs+aFZ+mX1giid9ZpWVGEYrxi3oovUos7Fij7MjUZtNWAkObERRLvg0vGdqsuhXIItWyLwo 7Rn/bWI8vs4U/XUqOFJC02fnJzirtGpTXJv8sRwfGFmthgwXtqsArazgOJ30dpH6VgA7codUE b0YJW9WyrZPenDEC5JdbW+SfhuBtQTGxfonNFyubsltqmgxnUBcbNszsz4r9Z1+HMxOgEsWn0 6HNvrmpu4nSeT4UzoV12r15oDyQeTunIZq8XpGpro84YC/6PU6EYbYCydHSIzDyo4/yliyVTP xFrs/e0Y8YXhpUVXgux5LPxJkHkyweL2NBoPwOtirKKF3r+O6EiTHrDYyL4zLZCR8zQxqh9+M hsQPGzOmb6+y19CWF7y3aTtp1F4Oi45rQy/AIRjA9SMopO2cBopLYr+HK70UAQoiFy3CI0dq6 oGpgUpnh/vbN/QgUIXPKG8QCrlh9fnj+BkbKvEgt2Ou6t1OzqZaZZeN5v976s5+UKuLB2QTh9 Qip3QNFI5e0GA0UNTA/x7YmjkffJZha6a+5Iocv6XzwZ3KVjrh3xwhGfPbbJYh4Wz516hAwM X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.18 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192230 Archived-At: > I'll leave it to you to guess what the problem is. I've explained > it in detail multiple times over the last couple days here and in > the bug report. Well, I'm a complete noob regarding this topic, but I think there is a problem with your perspective. There are a couple of *very* experienced developers on this list, having great a knowledge of not only Emacs but also of other Unix tools, in particular problems with the various shells. Especially Paul is quite active here, providing many patches for gnulib, coreutils, autoconf, and many other projects. Your writing insinuates that that they all intentionally don't want to understand what you are trying to say. Has it ever come to your mind that it is probably *still you* who failed to express the issue clearly enough, inspite of your many attempts? Or may there is an `agree to disagree' situation you have to live with but obviously cannot. Werner