From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: "... the window start at a meaningless point within a line."
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:24:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151019112425.GD2438@acm.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83d1wbgm95.fsf@gnu.org>
Hello, Eli.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 01:56:22PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:45:07 +0000
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
[ .... ]
> My problem is that you "flatten" the layout: where the actual layout
> is 2-dimensional, you make it 1-dimensional, and replace visual cues
> with those A2, L3 markers, that I can never remember which one is
> which. Reasoning about VERTICAL motion while using a HORIZONTAL
> diagram doesn't help, either.
> So if you want to use diagrams, let's make them reflect the screen
> layout, like this:
> B--------------------WS----------
> A--------------------L1----------
> A2------\n
> C---------------------------\n
> C2-------------------------\n
> etc., where a line without a \n at the end is continued on the next
> one.
> With this arrangement, the symbol's at the left can be discarded, and
> we only need the ones that are in the middle of the lines.
> If it's easier for you to have the lines start at WS and L1 instead of
> B and A, that's okay, too; we should just agree which convention we
> use.
I think I'd prefer to have the "actual" BOLs at the LHS. But the
symbols at the left are still useful for discussion about a scenario.
For point, `it', and target, I suggest we write these below the line
they apply to, even though they look a little ambiguous there. So, how
about this:
8. nlines = 3:
B-------------------------------
WS----A-------------------------------
L1----A2------------------------------\n
^
C-------------------------------------
C2------------------------------------\n
it
C3------------------------------------
T
?
Here, point starts between L1 and A2, our target BOL is C3 (3 actual
BOLs after L1) and Fvertical_motion puts `it' at C2 (3 xdisp BOLs after
A).
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-30 20:45 "... the window start at a meaningless point within a line." Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-01 8:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 9:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-01 10:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 11:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-01 12:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 16:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-15 18:16 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-15 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 9:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-16 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 15:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-16 17:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 20:46 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-17 7:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 7:56 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-16 21:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-16 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 18:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-16 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 20:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-17 8:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 11:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-17 12:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 14:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18 15:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-18 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 10:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-27 13:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-27 17:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-27 18:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-28 8:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-28 13:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-31 13:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-31 21:17 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 3:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-01 14:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 15:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-01 18:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-01 18:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-18 14:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-18 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 10:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-19 10:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 11:24 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2015-10-19 11:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 12:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-19 12:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 13:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-19 13:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 19:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-27 13:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-17 15:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
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