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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: "... the window start at a meaningless point within a line."
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 21:14:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151016211458.GE2779@acm.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bnby67yn.fsf@gnu.org>

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 08:26:08PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:19:36 +0000
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>

[ .... ]

> > I've no experience with bidi text, or even RTL text.  Could you cite me
> > an appropriate bidi or RTL file I could play around with, even though I
> > couldn't read it.  Would I need any special set up with (for example)
> > fonts, or input methods?  In fact, before asking you to answer these I
> > should read the fine manual first.

> Just turn on the 'hebrew' input method and start typing.

Wow!  That is, er,.. different!

[ .... ]

> > I see that `it' movements from "left to right" are going to move to
> > successively lower buffer positions, and this will give me trouble.

> No, it's much worse: when it moves, the screen coordinates increase
> monotonously, but buffer position does not.  The buffer position can
> go up for a while, then jump a head many places and start moving down,
> then jump again and go up, etc.  That's what I meant when I said the
> buffer position changes non-linearly with screen position.

Yes, I see what you mean, now.  I haven't tried out the Hebrew input
method with follow mode yet.  That should be interesting!

> > > As long as you use functions that move the iterator, you cannot safely
> > > assign one 'struct it' to another.  That's because the iterator object
> > > has a (mostly invisible) companion -- the bidi cache, which must be in
> > > sync with the contents of 'struct it'.

> > But surely each struct it has its own bidi cache, doesn't it?

> No, there's only one cache.

OK.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-16 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-30 20:45 "... the window start at a meaningless point within a line." Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-01  8:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01  9:41   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-01 10:16     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 11:02       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-01 12:03         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 16:35           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-15 18:16           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-15 20:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16  9:55               ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-16 10:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 15:19                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-16 17:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 20:46                       ` David Kastrup
2015-10-17  7:15                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17  7:56                           ` David Kastrup
2015-10-16 21:14                       ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2015-10-16 17:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 18:12                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-16 18:23                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 18:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 20:12                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-17  8:33                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 11:57                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-17 12:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 13:31                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 14:22                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18 15:00                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-18 17:44                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 10:27                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-27 13:40                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-27 17:35                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-27 18:33                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 18:23                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-28  8:58                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-28 13:15                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-31 13:21                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-31 21:17                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01  3:40                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-01 14:45                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 15:23                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 17:45                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-01 18:07                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-01 18:46                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-18 14:53                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-18 17:46                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 10:45                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-19 10:56                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 11:24                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-19 11:28                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 12:02                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-19 12:33                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 13:11                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-19 13:27                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 19:15                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-27 13:46                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-17 15:30                               ` Alan Mackenzie

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