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From: Werner LEMBERG <wl@gnu.org>
To: eliz@gnu.org
Cc: handa@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: how reliable is rendering of complex scripts?
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2015 10:09:03 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151004.100903.10931451.wl@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83zizz1590.fsf@gnu.org>


>> This essentially means that Emacs developers wait for users to
>> report bad renderings, right?
> 
> No, it means Emacs developers lack resources, knowledge, and
> motivated individuals aboard to do that.  If you or someone else
> volunteers, that'd be great.

I can only indirectly volunteer, namely by maintaining FreeType :-/

>> Well, this makes Emacs on MS-Windows really superior to other
>> platforms in this area, which is less than ideal...  I mean
>> `superior' in the sense that the rendering results on MS-Windows
>> are well tested and can be trusted in general, something that is
>> missing otherwise.
> 
> That's not entirely true, because, as I said, part of the data and
> algorithms needed for complex script layout is in Emacs, and is used
> on all supported platforms, not just by the Windows build.

OK.

>>   https://github.com/behdad/harfbuzz/tree/master/test/shaping
>>   https://github.com/behdad/harfbuzz/tree/master/util
> 
> I will see if we can extract something from there to see how Emacs
> displays those scripts.

The nice thing about `hb-shape' is that it doesn't output graphics but
a textual representation of the GSUB and GPOS manipulation results
(including reordering of the input).  In other words, Emacs could use
the same output format in a special test mode, making comparisons very
simple – and automated!


    Werner

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-04  8:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-02  5:39 how reliable is rendering of complex scripts? Werner LEMBERG
2015-10-02  7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-04  4:39   ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-10-04  7:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-04  8:09       ` Werner LEMBERG [this message]
2015-10-04  9:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-04  9:40           ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-10-04  9:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-04 18:06       ` John Wiegley
2015-10-04 19:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-04 21:43           ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05  6:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05 18:18               ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 19:22                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-06 16:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii

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