From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs tshirts Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:54:39 +0200 Message-ID: <20150929065438.GB27124@tuxteam.de> References: <871tdjigil.fsf@debian.uxu> <87r3ljh1du.fsf@debian.uxu> <877fnaoxmu.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443528879 2695 80.91.229.3 (29 Sep 2015 12:14:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:14:39 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 29 14:14:39 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zgtnn-0001za-Gu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:14:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50266 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zgtni-0004VD-0M for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:14:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38694) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgooO-0003VY-Lv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 02:54:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgooJ-0003kg-MX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 02:54:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:43550 helo=tomasium.tuxteam.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgooJ-0003gy-Gj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 02:54:47 -0400 Original-Received: from tomas by tomasium.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgooB-0007D9-3I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:54:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <877fnaoxmu.fsf@debian.uxu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107398 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 02:52:09AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Kaushal Modi writes: > > > I wish the emacs ninja tshirt didn't have that mouse > > Say WHAT?! > > > drawn on it along with the monitor and keyboard. > > Also, while I don't use vi, I respect that concept > > and wouldn't say that "I don't like it" :) > > Only the really old old-schoolers don't like vi. > Back then, they hadn't seen any of the apocalypse we > now have, so they could afford to put Emacs against > vi. Now, with all the around, we > emacsers offer our deepest respect to our colleagues > using and developing vi(m). Well put. Once upon a time it was fun and sportsy to pit Emacs against vi (the generic vi -- that is vim, elvis & co, not (only9 the proprietary AT&T vi). At that time I was mostly vi(m) user and Emacs admirer. These days I'm more of an Emacs user. I even remember of a paintball contest between Emacsers & VIers (the VIers won, AFAIR). These days, discussions between and feel as if the lives of the participants and their families' depended on the outcome. And each party seems dead set to stomp out the other "because we're right, dammit!". Yep, you're right. regards - -- tomás -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlYKNa4ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYLNgCeI4s1Ax2aB+8JC48CmUi5uuSE 1H4An3dTWjr+9Efnr517myknNWVxPxdK =Ys6a -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----