From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: member returns list Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 10:03:06 +0200 Message-ID: <20150913080305.GD13716@tuxteam.de> References: <87oaha9a64.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87twr1pycd.fsf@debian.uxu> <87zj0s5yc8.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87r3m45r7a.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87egi45fiw.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87oah7ryxr.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442131406 19106 80.91.229.3 (13 Sep 2015 08:03:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 08:03:26 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 13 10:03:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zb2Ft-0005ox-7k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2015 10:03:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34876 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zb2Fs-0001Za-BV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2015 04:03:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58817) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zb2Fi-0001WT-OF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2015 04:03:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zb2Ff-0000cj-HQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2015 04:03:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:53753 helo=tomasium.tuxteam.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zb2Ff-0000cX-Bw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2015 04:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from tomas by tomasium.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zb2Fe-0003rh-2H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2015 10:03:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87oah7ryxr.fsf@debian.uxu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107190 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 01:38:08AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: [...] > Actually it is totally marginalized. I know this from > reading job ads for one. Out of a hundred ads, there > is tons of Java, a lot C# [...] That's because of The Pyramids [1] > I'm surprised you haven't mentioned XML. No Lisp, no > XML, right? DSSL. XSLT. Right. [1] The original quote (by Alan Perlis) goes about Pascal, but I think we can confidently substitute Java as a worthi (if uglier) successor: "[Scheme and Pascal] It would be difficult to find two languages that are the communicating coin of two more different cultures than those gathered around these two languages. Pascal is for building pyramids -- imposing, breathtaking, static structures built by armies pushing heavy blocks into place. Lisp is for building organisms [...]" You need a lot of slaves to build pyramids (yeah, I know: strictly speaking, the pyramid builders weren't slaves, but hey). - -- t -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlX1LbkACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZGfwCfVCOxVaYPCKbZqmdy9VURyRS3 POUAn1Z10OPXj3BLuaxCQdkDQPGP2hO+ =Jij+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----