From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: text-quoting-style
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 09:05:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150902090552.GA2544@acm.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1ZWuSs-0007dm-IT@fencepost.gnu.org>
Hello, Richard.
On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 06:55:42PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> > And text-quoting-style is no solution for you either, since Emacs's
> > source code and many other documents will still come with those pesky
> > thingies.
> There should not be curly quotes in Emacs source code on a regular
> basis. They might appear the definition of 'format-message' and/or
> 'prettify', but those are very special cases.
> Are there currently curly quotes in other places than that?
$ grep '?' *.[ch]
, where ? is the left curly quote (entered by holding down <AlgGr>
whilst typing 2, 0, 1, 8 on the numeric keypad), in our src directory
shows 20 matches. Most, possibly all, of these seem to be to do with
the manipulation of the curly quotes themselves.
$ find . -name '*.el' | xargs grep '?' | wc -l
show 985 matches for left curly quote in the lisp source files. I find
this concerning.
Curly quotes aren't on any standard keyboard layout. The general notion
of how you're meant to edit files containing them is to enable a minor
mode whereby typing ` or ' sometimes does self-insert-command, other
times inserts a curly quote. isearch is being modified so that
(?sometimes) entering ` or ' in the search string will match the
curlies.
I don't find these workarounds at all attractive.
> --
> Dr Richard Stallman
> President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
> Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
> Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-28 2:03 text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-08-28 5:22 ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-08-28 7:06 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-08-28 7:37 ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 7:54 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-08-28 8:42 ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 14:39 ` text-quoting-style Yuri Khan
2015-08-28 14:49 ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 15:00 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-08-28 15:31 ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 15:39 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-08-28 15:48 ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 7:29 ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-28 16:42 ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-08-28 17:25 ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-28 17:48 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-08-28 18:28 ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-29 14:54 ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-08-29 15:59 ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-30 1:59 ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-08-30 13:16 ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-31 1:30 ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-08-31 6:29 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-08-31 20:13 ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-31 21:29 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 12:47 ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-01 16:27 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 17:07 ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-01 18:35 ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-01 23:58 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 9:09 ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-02 15:13 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 18:44 ` text-quoting-style Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-01 19:08 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 13:46 ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-01 16:28 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 17:08 ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-01 17:34 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 18:30 ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-02 0:07 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 0:27 ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-02 15:35 ` text-quoting-style Richard Stallman
2015-08-31 20:01 ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-01 3:31 ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01 9:28 ` text-quoting-style Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-01 10:53 ` text-quoting-style Oleh Krehel
2015-09-01 13:03 ` text-quoting-style Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-01 16:46 ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01 20:41 ` text-quoting-style Bastien
2015-09-01 23:47 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 0:18 ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-02 0:35 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 0:53 ` text-quoting-style David Kastrup
2015-09-02 6:57 ` text-quoting-style Bastien
2015-09-02 15:17 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 15:36 ` text-quoting-style Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-02 15:41 ` text-quoting-style Bastien Guerry
2015-09-01 22:55 ` text-quoting-style Richard Stallman
2015-09-02 9:05 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2015-08-31 16:10 ` text-quoting-style N. Jackson
2015-08-31 17:31 ` text-quoting-style Stefan Monnier
2015-09-02 19:34 ` text-quoting-style N. Jackson
2015-09-03 15:29 ` text-quoting-style raman
2015-08-31 6:15 ` text-quoting-style Paul Eggert
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