From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: text-quoting-style Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 13:03:03 +0000 Message-ID: <20150901130303.GC2362@acm.fritz.box> References: <83r3mn50rz.fsf@gnu.org> <20150828172501.GB4882@acm.fritz.box> <20150829155959.GA20484@acm.fritz.box> <20150830131613.GA2724@acm.fritz.box> <20150831200149.GA2280@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441112548 3692 80.91.229.3 (1 Sep 2015 13:02:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 13:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 01 15:02:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWlCd-00047W-D7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 15:02:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53951 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWlCd-0007IA-2g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 09:02:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54698) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWlCM-0007GN-8D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 09:02:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWlCH-00063q-Ro for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 09:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.muc.de ([193.149.48.3]:47192) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWlCH-00063h-Ic for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 09:01:57 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 99636 invoked by uid 3782); 1 Sep 2015 13:01:56 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p579E99BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.158.153.187]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 15:01:55 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 3196 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Sep 2015 13:03:03 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x X-Received-From: 193.149.48.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189383 Archived-At: Hello, Stefan. First of all, sorry that my last post was a bit irritable. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:31:20PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I DO NOT WANT CURLY QUOTES IN MY EMACS!!!!! > > How much more concrete can I get? > Then I guess you should go back to Emacs-19, since AFAIK curly quotes > have existed one way or another in Emacs ever since Emacs-20. I find the state of quoting as of Emacs 24.5 to be quite acceptable. > So, as far as I can tell, there's nothing we can to do help you. > And text-quoting-style is no solution for you either, since Emacs's > source code and many other documents will still come with those pesky > thingies. It's an Emacs tradition that controversial new features are optional. Curly quotes is such a new feature. Can you assure us all that this tradition will be upheld with respect to curly quotes? > IOW you agree that we should get rid of text-quoting-style. If there will be a configuration mechanism to replace it which is capable of configuring Emacs such that the quoting behaviour is unchanged from 24.5, then I agree it can be got rid of. > Stefan -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).