From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ian Zimmerman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: From Gnus to mu4e Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:50:23 -0700 Message-ID: <20150827234228.11079.2CAD2C13@ahiker.mooo.com> References: <87d1yhpsbr.fsf@free.fr> <87lhczyl1p.fsf@free.fr> <87a8tezf7x.fsf@free.fr> <87vbc0pgkp.fsf@free.fr> <20150827233408.GD30233@chitra.no-ip.org> Reply-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440719473 7132 80.91.229.3 (27 Aug 2015 23:51:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 23:51:13 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 28 01:51:05 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZV6wc-0003b5-AF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 01:50:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45206 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZV6wb-0007FL-OF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:50:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52266) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZV6wD-0007Eh-BS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:50:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZV6wC-0007Ad-Fb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:50:33 -0400 Original-Received: from disorder-1-pt.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net ([2001:470:1f04:51a::2]:49628 helo=acedia.primate.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZV6wC-00074C-6v for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:50:32 -0400 Original-Received: from acedia.primate.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acedia.primate.net (8.14.9/8.14.9/Debian-4) with ESMTP id t7RNoO8V006703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:50:24 -0700 Original-Received: (from itz@localhost) by acedia.primate.net (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t7RNoOkv006695 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:50:24 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: acedia.primate.net: itz set sender to itz@buug.org using -f Original-Received: from itz by ahiker.mooo.com with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZV6w3-0002uW-Pu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:50:23 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150827233408.GD30233@chitra.no-ip.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:470:1f04:51a::2 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:106879 Archived-At: On 2015-08-28 01:34 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > Because otherwise, you would have Gnus and offlineimap competing for > > access ? > I do not think this is possible. In fact AFAIK, any kind of race > condition in a maildir is not possible by design, as long as the > filesystem operations are atomic. I think this applies to the original delivery, but not necessarily to subsequent manipulation of maildirs. For example, the message flags are stored by appending them to the file name. If two MUAs concurrently scan the maildir for messages, then try to set a flag on one message, a race is possible. I observed wierdness when I tried to access my mail both by IMAP (the with Dovecot as the IMAP server) and directly reading the underlying maildirs with mutt. That was part of the reason why I gave up on IMAP entirely, and instead read over ssh and mutt locally on the server. -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court.