From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:29:45 +0000 Message-ID: <20150623192945.GB12232@acm.fritz.box> References: <20150619090225.GA2743@acm.fritz.box> <87fv5kfrfa.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83twtzhi9g.fsf@gnu.org> <877fqvfvby.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83fv5jh8ls.fsf@gnu.org> <874mlzf71d.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <558945C2.2010203@yandex.ru> <87egl2k19j.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435087778 4370 80.91.229.3 (23 Jun 2015 19:29:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, rms@gnu.org, Emacs Developers , Oleh Krehel , Dmitry Gutov , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Eli Zaretskii To: Nikolai Weibull Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 23 21:29:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7Tst-0006hv-F1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 21:29:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47124 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7Tss-00083h-S9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:29:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59364) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7Tsg-00083V-NM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:29:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7Tsd-00040L-HI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:29:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.muc.de ([193.149.48.3]:61041) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7Tsd-000402-8F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:29:11 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 70275 invoked by uid 3782); 23 Jun 2015 19:29:09 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p5B146F57.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.20.111.87]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 21:29:08 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 12826 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Jun 2015 19:29:45 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x X-Received-From: 193.149.48.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187445 Archived-At: Hello, Nikolai. On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 08:22:58PM +0200, Nikolai Weibull wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Oleh Krehel wrote: > > Honestly, it's very weird to see "It’s" written by you, when I'm used to > > seeing "It's" in all electronic media (which accounts for 100% of my > > English usage). > As you yourself point out, this is due to you being a person who’s > only used English in a medium that for very long was severely limited > in expressive power (ASCII and ISO-8859-5?). ASCII and ISO-8859-1 are not even slightly limited in expressive power. Anything you can say in English can be expressed efficiently in these character sets. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).