From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Proulx Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Control-C conundrum Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:01:10 -0600 Message-ID: <20150606114719764101686@bob.proulx.com> References: <20150604001736.GA1917@mail.akwebsoft.com> <20150603222121607920564@bob.proulx.com> <20150604152420.GC1917@mail.akwebsoft.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1433613697 25508 80.91.229.3 (6 Jun 2015 18:01:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 18:01:37 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 06 20:01:30 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1IPS-0002GV-1r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:01:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52213 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1IPR-00048L-Bc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:01:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37125) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1IPG-00048F-O3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:01:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1IPD-0000nk-I3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:01:18 -0400 Original-Received: from joseki.proulx.com ([216.17.153.58]:47828) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z1IPD-0000lO-1i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:01:15 -0400 Original-Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3221D21844 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:01:12 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D9AB32DC4D; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:01:11 -0600 (MDT) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150604152420.GC1917@mail.akwebsoft.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 216.17.153.58 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104796 Archived-At: Tim Johnson wrote: > I use a Happy Hacking Lite2 Keyboard (non-mac), for the most part, > attached to a Mac Mini with OS X. I have a numeric keypad on the > left which I've also set up for emacs and a logitech trackball on > the right. I also own a Happy Hacker Lite 2. The one with the cursor keys on the lower right side. http://www.pfusystems.com/embedded-keyboard/hhkb/index.html The keys are excellent. The left half is perfect for me. The right half has a different key layout than the IBM PC with the short enter and gives me difficulty. In particular the Delete key give me problems because I type fast with lots of mistakes and lots of hitting of the backspace key. On the HHL2 it is located in a different spot and I always end up hitting the backslash instead. If that one key, Delete, were in the same place as the IBM PC keyboard Backspace then I think I would adapt better to the rearrangement of the backslash and tilde keys. But because of that difference in arrangement I moved away from it. That keyboard is now in my traveling computer parts bag for use plugging into headless systems. It is a nice keyboard. But I didn't adapt to it for full time use. > Alternatively I use any of several netbooks. Those are running > lubuntu with fluxbox and have the control and capslock switched > via xmodmap. Generally I'm ssh'd onto the Mac from a netbook. Most of the netbooks have squished compact keyboards with additional keys rearranged. You must be a person who can adapt to different keyboards easier than I do. Good for you. Bad for me. I find it difficult to use the compacted keyboards and it is worse when random keys are moved to non-standard locations. > I seldom use the 'alt' key, prefering Ctl-[ or ESC. ESC is on the > left on all machines that I have to use. Me too. For normal things such as M-w for me it is ESC-w. However for more complex combinations such as M-^ that would require an awkward move of the left pinky. For that I tend to use left shift-alt with thumb and forefinger and then ^ with the right forefinger. Bob