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From: Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Control-C conundrum
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 11:45:58 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150606113041423449103@bob.proulx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sia7n1a2.wl-lists@groll.co.za>

Jonathan Groll wrote:
> No matter what keyboard you use, I've always thought that the idea is
> to always use BOTH the left and right 'modifier' keys. So, what I am
> saying is that should you want to type say 'C-p' then the left hand
> presses the left control key and the right hand presses the P key. For
> 'C-c' the right hand presses the right control key and the left hand
> presses the C key. The fingers of one hand shouldn't be 'scrunched
> up', and both hands should work in concert.
>
> Of course, if you swap control with caps-lock then there isn't a
> caps-lock key on the right hand side of the keyboard, so I'm not sure
> what folks do in that situation.

Having typed for years on keyboards prior to the IBM PC keyboard with
the multiple control keys I could only use the left pinky for the
control key.  The vt100 doesn't have a control key on the right side
for example but only one on the left.  Therefore my habits were
already set by the time a right control key became available.  These
days I mostly use the right control for the Compose key.

I type relatively fast but have acquired some less than perfect habits
over the years.  C-b is the example for me.  The 'b' key is a left
pointing finger key.  However with the left pinky on the control,
especially on the older keyboards where control was left further
outside of the capslock, that was quite a stretch!  I got into the
habit of using left pinky for control and right pointing finger for
the 'b' key.  That works great.  Until you are on a split ergonomic
keyboard.  On those with C-b my right finger usually taps into a solid
plastic spot with no key!  That is my biggest worst bad habit for
typing that always shows up on a split ergo keyboard. :-/

All habits can be learned and unlearned with practice.  I am
completely bilingual with regards to switching between emacs and vi
for example.  But I never picked up the Dvorak key layout.  I never
picked up using the right control or alt/meta.  Some habits are deeper
and harder than others.

> I'm a happy Kinesis Advantage keyboard user, and that keyboard
> promotes the above described usage of both sides of the keyboard. I'm
> not sure how well the Advantage will work out with a thumb injury
> though as you do use your thumbs quite a bit with it. Kinesis sell a
> three pedal foot switch that works with their keyboards. 

I have friends who use that keyboard and also seem happy with it.  Two
of them use it in Dvorak key layout mode for double the benefit.
Since I am using my trusty classic ThinkPad keyboard a lot I think it
would be a hard thing for me to learn.  And it is an expensive
keyboard.

Bob



  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-06 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-04  0:17 Control-C conundrum Tim Johnson
2015-06-04  0:44 ` John Mastro
2015-06-04  0:52   ` Tim Johnson
2015-06-04 13:55     ` William Hatch
2015-06-04 15:47       ` Tim Johnson
2015-06-04 22:12         ` Robert Thorpe
2015-06-04 22:53           ` Tim Johnson
2015-06-05  7:39       ` Eric S Fraga
2015-06-04  4:47 ` Bob Proulx
2015-06-04 11:47   ` Jonathan Groll
2015-06-06 17:45     ` Bob Proulx [this message]
2015-06-07 15:15       ` Jude DaShiell
2015-06-04 15:24   ` Tim Johnson
2015-06-04 15:44     ` Tim Johnson
2015-06-06 18:01     ` Bob Proulx
2015-06-11  1:33       ` Tim Johnson
2015-06-11  9:30         ` Haines Brown
2015-06-11 15:31           ` Tim Johnson
2015-06-12 19:25             ` Bob Proulx
2015-06-12 22:34               ` Eric Abrahamsen
     [not found]       ` <mailman.4776.1433986444.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-11 18:43         ` Joe Fineman
     [not found] ` <mailman.4252.1433393266.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-07  4:22   ` Rusi
2015-06-07 20:42     ` Robert Thorpe
2015-06-11  1:28       ` Tim Johnson
     [not found] <mailman.4247.1433377066.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-04  3:47 ` Stefan Monnier

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