From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Wordingham Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: split window Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 22:24:59 +0100 Message-ID: <20150527222459.0fdff9c7@JRWUBU2> References: <20150526143108.59d7eb9a@zothique.localdomain> <20150527065620.66bcc51f@JRWUBU2> <20150526232646.21f3d172@zothique.localdomain> <20150527204355.435a5958@JRWUBU2> <83lhg9yf0i.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1432761926 6054 80.91.229.3 (27 May 2015 21:25:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 21:25:26 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 27 23:25:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YxipB-0004kX-7b for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 23:25:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55467 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YxipA-0001yO-DN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 17:25:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46021) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yxip0-0001we-CQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 17:25:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yxiov-0005es-C5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 17:25:06 -0400 Original-Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-3.server.virginmedia.net ([80.0.253.67]:33376) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yxiov-0005eA-4r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 17:25:01 -0400 Original-Received: from JRWUBU2 ([81.103.224.4]) by know-smtprelay-3-imp with bizsmtp id Z9Qz1q00P06JmVd019QzlE; Wed, 27 May 2015 22:24:59 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [81.103.224.4] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=TYVrzkkh c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=pLuj3OkTrmEUIJBpyvkqVg==:117 a=pLuj3OkTrmEUIJBpyvkqVg==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=f32J-XGfS4oj6VP3VaAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 In-Reply-To: <83lhg9yf0i.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.0.253.67 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104624 Archived-At: On Wed, 27 May 2015 22:52:29 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 20:43:55 +0100 > > From: Richard Wordingham > No, runemacs is for invoking Emacs from a desktop shortcut or from an > Explorer window, or from Start->Run dialog. > > On Windows, Emacs 23.0.60.1 (and 23.2 and 24.4) displays two > > windows, the startup screen and the file to be visited, whether or > > not the -q option is specified. It looks like new Emacs behaviour > > at Version 23. > I see nothing of the kind here. There's no such new behavior. For Windows, I see the two-window behaviour for Versions 23 and 24, and the one-window (for the file to edit) in Version 22. The one-window behaviour is what I see almost daily for Version 20.2 on Solaris. This difference looks like new behaviour to me. I normally start Emacs on Windows by double clicking on the icon for runemacs.exe. I am sure I read that emacs.exe couldn't be started directly, so I didn't try it until today. When I did launch it from Windows explorer, the only issue was that it created a terminal window. It shows the same one- v. two-window behaviour as runemacs. With Ubuntu Lucid Lynx (10.04), I tended not to start emacs from the command line because of the error messages. Therefore I cannot say for sure when the two-window behaviour started. I recently changed the cursor style on Ubuntu to the 'bar' style, and for Emacs 24.4 I need the environment setting LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0. That's a GTK-related problem. In short, the behaviour of Emacs has changed. Are you saying you get the same behaviour for Versions 22 and 23? Richard.