From: Werner LEMBERG <wl@gnu.org>
To: eliz@gnu.org
Cc: clement.pitclaudel@live.com, ohwoeowho@gmail.com, 20628@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#20628: 25.0.50; Incorrect line height for some fonts
Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 23:49:59 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150522.234959.238191883.wl@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83617k4e5g.fsf@gnu.org>
>> Here is an hypothesis. When I open Latin Modern in FontForge, I see
>> two types of ascent and descent values: the ones in the "General"
>> tab are 806 and 194, and the ones in the OS/2 tab, in particular
>> Win Ascent and Win Descent, are 3560 and 3060. Such a discrepancy
>> does not seem to exist in the few well-behaved fonts that I
>> checked. Could it be that most applications use the first set of
>> values, but Emacs relies on the second?
Actually, there are *three* sets of font-wide ascender and descender
values in TrueType fonts:
(1) From the `hhea' table: The `ascent' and `descent' fields,
together with `linegap'. Used by Apple, cf.
https://developer.apple.com/fonts/TrueType-Reference-Manual/RM06/Chap6hhea.html
These values are normally set by the font developer; there is no
relation to the actual ascender and descender values of
individual glyphs.
(2) From the `OS/2' table: The `usWinAscent' and `usWinDescent'
fields, for Windows. Originally, those values are the ymax and
ymin values from all characters in the Windows ANSI character
set. Today, however, it is often set to the ymax and ymin
values of all glyphs in a font to avoid nasty clipping on (some?
older?) Windows applications.
(3) From the `OS/2' table: The `sTypoAscender' and `sTypoDescender'
fields, together with `sTypoLinegap'. For Windows. These
values are normally set by the font developer; there is no
relation to the actual ascender and descender values of
individual glyphs.
Note that (1) and (3) are defined differently. Mac fonts often miss
an `OS/2' table, making (2) and (3) unavailable. Additionally, many
fonts have incompatible or erroneous values for any of the fields.
It's really a mess, unfortunately.
IMHO the bes solution is to completely ignore font-wide ascender and
descender values. Instead, use the TeX approach: set the line gap to
the current size of the font, multiplied by a factor of 1.2 (and make
this configurable on a font-by-font basis in case it isn't already),
and increase the linegap if individual glyphs need it.
Werner
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2015-05-22 3:02 bug#20628: 25.0.50; Incorrect line height for some fonts Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-22 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 10:11 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 12:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 12:49 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 13:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 13:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 13:15 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 13:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 13:54 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 14:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 14:20 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 14:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 15:03 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 16:05 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 16:15 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 16:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 16:33 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 16:54 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 17:15 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-05-22 17:40 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 18:18 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 18:53 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 19:05 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-22 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 19:09 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-22 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 20:08 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-22 22:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-22 23:55 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-23 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-24 8:20 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-24 9:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-23 7:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-23 13:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-23 13:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-23 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-23 7:47 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-05-23 8:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-23 9:56 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-23 10:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-23 10:56 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-25 10:32 ` Rasmus
2015-05-25 13:24 ` Drew Adams
2015-05-25 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 18:57 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-22 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 21:49 ` Werner LEMBERG [this message]
2015-05-23 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-23 9:50 ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-05-23 9:57 ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-05-23 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-23 11:45 ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-05-24 8:20 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-24 9:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-24 9:32 ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-05-24 9:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-24 10:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-24 10:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-27 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-29 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-29 8:35 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-29 9:30 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-29 10:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-29 10:38 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-29 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-29 14:49 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-29 18:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-29 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-29 13:16 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-29 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 9:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 5:21 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-30 9:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 13:00 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-30 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 14:32 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-30 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 16:59 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-30 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 18:57 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-30 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 19:26 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-05-30 19:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-31 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-01 10:54 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-06-01 14:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-06 13:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 18:58 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-30 19:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-03 9:44 ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-06-03 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 19:03 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-22 19:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 20:25 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-23 7:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-24 8:20 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-24 9:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-23 8:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 15:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-05-22 15:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 15:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-22 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 13:21 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-05-24 8:20 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-05-24 9:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 15:16 ` Rasmus
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