From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Do we want more choice? (was Bookmark the end of file?) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 21:26:15 +0200 Message-ID: <20150413192615.GB12906@tuxteam.de> References: <1b751175-4544-44e7-bbcd-d5a01bf92624@default> <39b824d1-e8d2-4bf7-a983-c6cefff83dad@googlegroups.com> <291260f3-daa1-4ab4-8840-2ee9b9f164ec@default> <20150413071741.GA22660@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428953219 16035 80.91.229.3 (13 Apr 2015 19:26:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 13 21:26:54 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yhk09-000219-7m for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 21:26:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53165 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yhk08-0001ce-Gr for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:26:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37735) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yhjzy-0001bC-Nr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:26:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yhjzv-0000rA-IP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:26:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:38301 helo=tomasium.tuxteam.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yhjzv-0000r5-Cd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:26:19 -0400 Original-Received: from tomas by tomasium.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yhjzr-0003Ri-Uk; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 21:26:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103696 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:20:15PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I have the strong suspicion that the "less choice is good" movement > > we are seeing stems from being too lazy [...] > There are many ways to interpret "less choice is good". For me, what it > means is that adding a custom variable, a C-u prefix, or a new command > just to "give more choice" is often actually either laziness or > a reflection of the fact that it's very hard to find a better UI. > > Of course, in Emacs we get to enjoy even more cop-outs and more choices, > since most of the "missing choices" are available to the end user, > modulo a few advice-add and enough motivation ;-) Definitely. It takes more thought to offer more choice in a useful way. I think Emacs is one of the more advanced interfaces wrt this aspect. - -- t -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlUsGFcACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZdbACfTyChB0cwxbOQs8p18trIAf0L npsAn0wiSEUlXW7ZMkGVyOGzgviS0Avt =XqFB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----