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From: Barry Warsaw <barry@python.org>
To: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: save-excursion and the mark
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:31:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150225113104.24d16b89@limelight.wooz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvwq36itla.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

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On Feb 24, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:

>Users aren't really relevant here because they wouldn't know if the code
>they run relies on this behavior.  Only package authors would know.

Just a quick response and then I'll stop.

I disagree.  Lots of users write little bits of lisp, or get lisp from their
colleagues and friends.  Much of it may never get published outside their
small network or corporate walls.  The point is that this is a long-published
and API and you will never know everyone who is relying on the documented
behavior.

When it's sometimes necessary to break an API, it's best to do it in a
backward compatible way, or progressively deprecate it.  In any case, I think
it's important to justify the break with a compelling rationale.  "Unused
AFAICT" often isn't such exactly because you can't reach your entire user
base, and you can't know how they are using it.

Cheers,
-Barry

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-25 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-23  4:44 save-excursion and the mark Stefan Monnier
2015-02-23 11:34 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-23 22:33   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-23 23:14     ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-24  0:12       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-02-24  8:47         ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-24  2:31   ` Alexis
2015-02-24  3:52     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-25  1:58       ` Yuri Khan
2015-02-24 15:37 ` Barry Warsaw
2015-02-24 19:27   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-24 20:11     ` Barry Warsaw
2015-02-24 20:49       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-02-25  3:01         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-25  3:25           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-02-25 16:31           ` Barry Warsaw [this message]
2015-02-25 16:42             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-25 17:17             ` Drew Adams
2015-02-25 18:30     ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-26 13:50       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-27  0:13         ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-27 13:49           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-27 23:46             ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-28 18:50               ` martin rudalics
2015-03-02  5:36                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-02  5:35               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-02 21:05                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-03-03 16:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-04 12:01                     ` Richard Stallman
2015-02-24 16:05 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-02-25  2:59   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-25 11:49     ` Andreas Röhler
2015-02-25 12:35       ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-25 13:05         ` Andreas Röhler
2015-02-25 14:00       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-25 17:13         ` Andreas Röhler
2015-02-25  9:18 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-25 15:56   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-06 18:45 ` Magnar Sveen
2015-04-07 21:37   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-08  1:57   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-14 16:08     ` Magnar Sveen
2015-04-14 20:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-15  4:14         ` Magnar Sveen
2015-04-15 12:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-15 13:49             ` Magnar Sveen
2015-04-15 14:59               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-18  1:02                 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-04-15 14:24           ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-15 15:16           ` Phillip Lord
2015-04-19 15:28         ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-20  2:03           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-20  6:31         ` Andreas Röhler
2015-04-23 10:03 ` Frank Fischer
2015-05-28 17:42 ` Nicolas Richard
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-04-17 18:53 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-04-18  4:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-18 12:30   ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-04-25 12:45   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-04-25 13:23     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-04-25 14:19       ` Artur Malabarba

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