From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Voit Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: zsh outside of Emacs (was: Why do we need a number of different terminal modes in Emacs?) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 12:50:38 +0100 Organization: www.karl-voit.at Message-ID: <2015-02-07T12-48-06@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> References: <2015-02-02T16-41-55@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <87iofjesfx.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> Reply-To: Karl Voit NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423309883 5785 80.91.229.3 (7 Feb 2015 11:51:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 11:51:23 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 07 12:51:22 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3ux-0006JS-Pc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:51:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52513 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3ux-0000iC-6z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:51:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51132) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3ug-0000gw-MP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:51:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3ub-0002Da-Jc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:51:02 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:42128) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3ub-0002DU-DY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:50:57 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3uZ-00066T-K3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:50:55 +0100 Original-Received: from friends.grml.info ([136.243.234.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:50:55 +0100 Original-Received: from news1142 by friends.grml.info with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:50:55 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: friends.grml.info X-GPG-Key: http://www.Karl-Voit.at/Karl_Voit_GnuPG_public_key.gpg X-Registered-Linux-User: 224337 X-Confession: Pastafarian http://www.venganza.org/ User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.0-18 (Linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102551 Archived-At: * Robert Thorpe wrote: > Karl Voit writes: > ... >> However, this confirms my habit of using a Terminal emulator, with >> GNU/screen[1], together with a great set-up of zsh[2]. > > You can use GNU Screen and Zsh and connect to them using M-x term. That > puts them within Emacs, but Screen should make things safe from Emac's > crashes. And what advantages would I get? >> Unfortunately, my GNU/Emacs tends to be very unstable[3] so that I >> have to kill and re-start it several times a day. I handle this by >> having a very tight auto-save-interval. Losing all of my open shell >> sessions would be a disaster. > > Have you bisected your init file? No. Most issues only appear in my "GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 2014-01-01 on gkar, modified by Debian" and not in my GNU Emacs I use on Windows. Therefore I have the strong feeling that my Emacs backport for Debian/Wheezy is the cause for some issues. -- All in all, one of the most disturbing things today is the definitive fact that the NSA, GCHQ, and many more government organizations are massively terrorizing the freedom of us and the next generations. http://Karl-Voit.at