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From: Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: zsh outside of Emacs (was: Why do we need a number of different terminal modes in Emacs?)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:55:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2015-02-02T16-41-55@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87egq9sqgo.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com

* Robert Thorpe <rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> I'll explain the trickiness.  Shell-mode works in an Emacs-like manner.
> It hooks to an external shell, such as bash, ksh or tcsh.  It transfers
> *lines* to the shell.  It has to work this way, since the line is edited by
> Emacs editing commands.
[...]

Thank you very much for your detailed explanation!

However, this confirms my habit of using a Terminal emulator, with
GNU/screen[1], together with a great set-up of zsh[2].

Unfortunately, my GNU/Emacs tends to be very unstable[3] so that I
have to kill and re-start it several times a day. I handle this by
having a very tight auto-save-interval. Losing all of my open shell
sessions would be a disaster.

Sure, I have to copy&paste a lot between zsh and Emacs. However,
Org-mode/babel helps for very simple things as well.

Additionally, I need to sync Org-mode files, detach GNU/screen
sessions, log off the computer, put it into sleep mode, switch
computer, re-start GNU/Emacs session with synced Org-mode files, and
return to the other computer later on. Therefore, my GNU/screen
sessions run for much longer than my GNU/Emacs sessions.

I could not find good enough reasons to move my shell into GNU/Emacs
- even though I do basically everything inside Org-mode.


Quite recently, I stumbled over org-screen/ob-screen but it didn't
gave me enough advantages.


[1] Found no time or urgent reason to switch to tmux yet

[2] http://grml.org/zsh/

[3] Different story, hard to fix by myself and hard to imitate for
    peers. I did not find an Emacs guru willing to spend time with
    me infront of my keyboard.
-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-02 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-01  7:09 Why do we need a number of different terminal modes in Emacs? Andrey Lisin
2015-02-01 13:37 ` Robert Thorpe
2015-02-01 14:10   ` Andrey Lisin
2015-02-02 15:55   ` Karl Voit [this message]
2015-02-03  0:42     ` zsh outside of Emacs (was: Why do we need a number of different terminal modes in Emacs?) Robert Thorpe
2015-02-07 11:50       ` Karl Voit
2015-02-07 20:51         ` Robert Thorpe
2015-02-09 13:13           ` Karl Voit
2015-02-09 18:57             ` Bob Proulx
2015-02-10  3:21             ` Robert Thorpe
2015-02-10 14:03               ` Karl Voit
     [not found]           ` <mailman.19583.1423488667.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-02-10  0:22             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-02-10 11:00               ` zsh outside of Emacs Tory S. Anderson
     [not found]               ` <mailman.19666.1423566011.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-02-11  0:58                 ` gnuplot (was: Re: zsh outside of Emacs) Emanuel Berg
2015-02-11  3:28                   ` Robert Thorpe
     [not found]       ` <mailman.19445.1423309865.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-02-07 21:16         ` zsh outside of Emacs (was: Why do we need a number of different terminal modes in Emacs?) Emanuel Berg
2015-02-01 15:00 ` Why do we need a number of different terminal modes in Emacs? Marcin Borkowski

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