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From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Removing rollback from VC mode - request for comment
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 07:51:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141211125145.GB25499@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fvcm8jf0.fsf@zigzag.favinet>

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Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnu.org>:
> So, i think "rollback" as a concept is actually not far
> enough.  Being able to select arbitrary commits to drop (like
> ‘d’ and ‘x’ in Dired) is what i'd like to see, in its stead.

RCCS and SCCS can do this, in theory.  But I've never trusted that
feature.  The obvious problem is that if you delete an earlier delta
you may well change the preconditions for a later one, so it will have
unexpected effects.  

I know how RCS's delta representation works; it is *not* smart enough
to fully compensate.  And no wonder. General patch composition is a
hard enough problem that it scuttled Darcs thirty years later!

In other VCSes it would be difficult to even attempt this.  In view
of the known problems, I recommend staying way the hell away from
it unless and until David Roundy successfully proves a correct
composition algorithm and we integrate it into Emacs somehow.
-- 
		<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-11 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-11  9:21 Removing rollback from VC mode - request for comment Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-11  9:43 ` David Kastrup
2014-12-11 12:23   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-12-11 12:51     ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2014-12-11 16:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 17:12         ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 18:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 17:45         ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-11 18:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 19:54           ` Sergey Organov
2014-12-11 20:53             ` Sergey Organov
2014-12-11 21:49             ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-12  0:57               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-12 10:54                 ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-12  0:33           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-12  3:21             ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-11 11:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-11 12:42   ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 12:57     ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-11 16:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 11:53 ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 11:57   ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 12:36     ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-11 13:48       ` David Kastrup
2014-12-11 14:27       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-11 15:59         ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 16:21       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 17:01         ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-12-11 18:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 19:24             ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 20:23               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-11 20:59               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-12 15:44                 ` John Mastro
2014-12-12 16:01                   ` Nicolas Richard
2014-12-12 19:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-14 12:11                       ` Jonas Bernoulli
2014-12-14 19:34                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-14 23:29                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-15 13:10                           ` Jonas Bernoulli
2014-12-15 17:21                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-12 19:22                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 21:11               ` Rasmus
2014-12-11 17:09         ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-12  0:21           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-12  3:19             ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-12 10:57             ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-12 13:57               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 14:06                 ` Sergey Organov
2014-12-12 16:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-14 14:40               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-14 20:48                 ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-14 23:29                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-15  2:04                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-15  9:04                     ` David Kastrup
2014-12-11 18:55       ` Achim Gratz
2014-12-11 19:28         ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 20:21           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12  9:06             ` vc-region-authors (or some such) Sebastien Vauban
2014-12-12 14:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 16:13                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-11 15:47 ` Removing rollback from VC mode - request for comment Stefan Monnier
2014-12-11 17:02   ` Sergey Organov
2014-12-11 18:36   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-11 19:40     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 16:41     ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-12 17:45       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-13 12:46         ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-13 13:41           ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-14  9:07             ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-14 10:04               ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-14 14:01                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-12-11 19:25 ` Karl Fogel
2014-12-11 19:50 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-12 15:42 ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-12 16:15   ` David Kastrup
2014-12-12 17:16     ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-12 17:43       ` David Kastrup
2014-12-12 19:02         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 20:54           ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-12 21:49             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-13  9:30               ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-13  9:42                 ` David Kastrup
2014-12-13 10:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-13 10:45                     ` David Kastrup
2014-12-13 11:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-13 13:59                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-13 15:21                   ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-14  4:06                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-14 13:13                       ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-14 13:27                         ` David Kastrup
2014-12-15 17:25                           ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-15  4:38                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-15  9:14                           ` David Kastrup
2014-12-15 17:34                           ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-17 21:01                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 20:52         ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-12 17:41     ` Multiple independent projects per directory Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-12 18:07   ` Removing rollback from VC mode - request for comment Thien-Thi Nguyen

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