From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: More metaproblem Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 05:27:42 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20141204102742.GA31661@thyrsus.com> References: <20141203192721.GE12748@thyrsus.com> <547F6774.50700@cs.ucla.edu> <838uio5vjw.fsf@gnu.org> <20141203211447.GB15111@thyrsus.com> <871toge5zw.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <83388v6hsq.fsf@gnu.org> <85egsfpytd.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83sigv4ttc.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417688926 12842 80.91.229.3 (4 Dec 2014 10:28:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 10:28:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stephen Leake , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 04 11:28:41 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XwTeK-0007v5-Rp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:28:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45218 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwTeK-0007lz-Cy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 05:28:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33389) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwTe1-0007kS-GI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 05:28:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwTdx-0003pC-HK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 05:28:21 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:37904 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwTdt-0003nx-3l; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 05:28:13 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D96B238365C; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 05:27:42 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83sigv4ttc.fsf@gnu.org> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178816 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii : > > From: Stephen Leake > > Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 03:08:14 -0600 > > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > >> "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > > >> >For Emacs to attract new developers, its code and the culture need to > > >> >be discoverable. As part of this, practice rules need to be *clear*, > > >> >*documented*, and *minimal*. Right now they fail all three tests. > > >> > > > See admin/notes/repo and admin/notes/commits. What else is missing? > > > > That does not describe the changelog entry/commit message format. There > > is admin/notes/changelog, which contains a reference to the Gnu coding > > standards and some hints. > > Maybe we should simply move all that into etc/CONTRIBUTE, and leave in > admin/notes only stuff that is minor/obscure etc. I agree, and was intending to suggest that myself. -- Eric S. Raymond