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From: Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Stop fiddling with my preferences
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 00:15:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141130235724153372947@bob.proulx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831totswav.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Roland Lutz wrote:
> > operating systems, but does this make it appropriate for Emacs?  One of 
> > the reasons I'm using mature software is exactly that I *don't* have to be 
> > worried with each new version that ESC won't stop playing animated GIFs 
> > any more, etc.
> 
> We change user-visible behavior in response to user demand, not
> because Emacs is immature.  User demands and expectations change with
> time, and Emacs cannot stay with old defaults forever.

I often hear developers saying this.  But I rarely hear users asking
for these (mis)features.  Therefore what it feels like is actually
happening is that when developers want to do something they just do it
and claim that users want it.  When they don't want to do it then they
claim they can't because of backward compatibility.  It is very
frustrating.

I had to make almost exactly the same fixes as Roland too.

Bob



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-01  7:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-23 15:35 Stop fiddling with my preferences Roland Lutz
2014-11-23 16:27 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-23 17:32   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-23 17:45     ` Roland Lutz
2014-11-23 17:59       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-23 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-23 17:25   ` Fabrice Popineau
2014-11-25 14:25     ` Sebastian Wiesner
2014-11-25 16:47       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-25 17:12         ` Sebastian Wiesner
2014-11-25 17:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-25 17:30             ` Sebastian Wiesner
2014-11-25 19:18               ` Fabrice Popineau
2014-12-01  7:15   ` Bob Proulx [this message]
2014-12-01 13:42     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-01 15:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 14:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-30 14:15   ` joakim
2014-11-30 15:00     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-11-30 14:31   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2014-11-30 15:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 19:32       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm

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