From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Ergonomics and neurology for interface designers Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:29:51 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20141125212951.GD19955@thyrsus.com> References: <20141124094929.GA32148@thyrsus.com> <87k32k51ka.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20141124104616.GA1744@thyrsus.com> <87fvd8steg.fsf@gmx.de> <20141124130355.GA5432@thyrsus.com> <87bnnwqtfi.fsf@gmx.de> <20141125025054.GA20793@thyrsus.com> <877fyj4w45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20141125132210.GA10466@thyrsus.com> <87y4qz2wol.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416951062 26492 80.91.229.3 (25 Nov 2014 21:31:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:31:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Albinus , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 25 22:30:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XtNhH-0000Y6-8I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:30:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59610 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XtNhG-00067Y-L7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:30:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57934) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XtNgs-00067O-TN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:30:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XtNgo-0005eu-KY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:30:30 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:48939 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XtNgj-0005cy-NO; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:30:21 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 80D28382B37; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:29:51 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87y4qz2wol.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178275 Archived-At: David Kastrup : > So I don't see that we have an absolute time threshold below which > version control caused delays are irrelevant. Human types command, such as a checkin. Human expects to see that the state of the disply has changed as expected before doing the next thing. There are lots of things I believe human do a computers that are buffered action subroutines. Sequences of version control operations are not among them; as someone else pointed out, that's "slow" thinking. -- Eric S. Raymond