From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Perry E. Metzger" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug#766395: emacs/gnus: Uses s_client to for SSL. Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:57:21 -0400 Message-ID: <20141023145721.12ed0820@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> References: <20141022193441.GA11872@roeckx.be> <87zjcnj2k6.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <87mw8mzmxj.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <20141023143702.3897e618@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <8761fazkx7.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1414090655 5417 80.91.229.3 (23 Oct 2014 18:57:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Rob Browning , kurt@roeckx.be To: Florian Weimer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 23 20:57:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XhNZg-0006pM-2G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:57:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43014 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XhNZf-00053H-NK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:57:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60313) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XhNZc-00053A-4Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:57:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XhNZa-0008UQ-Uo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:57:24 -0400 Original-Received: from hacklheber.piermont.com ([2001:470:30:84:e276:63ff:fe62:3400]:41751) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XhNZa-0008Tc-Qj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:57:22 -0400 Original-Received: from snark.cb.piermont.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hacklheber.piermont.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CB0400; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from jabberwock.cb.piermont.com (jabberwock.cb.piermont.com [10.160.2.107]) by snark.cb.piermont.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07702DFCC0; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:57:21 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <8761fazkx7.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-apple-darwin14.0.0) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 2001:470:30:84:e276:63ff:fe62:3400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175750 Archived-At: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:43:32 +0200 Florian Weimer > Keep in mind that TLS 1.0 basically has the same problem as SSL 3.0, > and support for protocols beyond TLS 1.0 is not actually widespread. Connections to most of the top sites are TLS 1.2 at this point. Google is TLS 1.2. Facebook is TLS 1.2. Amazon is TLS 1.2. Apple is TLS 1.2. I could go on and on. All are using AES at this point and not RC4 as well. I think you're a year behind on your claim. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger perry@piermont.com