From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: replying to Debbugs [ was: bug#18725: ] Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 09:13:25 +0000 Message-ID: <20141016091325.GA3421@acm.acm> References: <20141015154039.GC3093@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1413451182 23669 80.91.229.3 (16 Oct 2014 09:19:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 09:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 16 11:19:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XehDb-0003Vx-F8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:19:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49376 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XehDa-0003BQ-U3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:19:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44868) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XehDI-0003Al-MY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:19:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XehDB-0000MB-Dl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:19:16 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:20536 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XehDB-0000Kd-4N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:19:09 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 66903 invoked by uid 3782); 16 Oct 2014 09:19:07 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9518029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.81.128.41]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:19:06 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 3601 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Oct 2014 09:13:25 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 8.x X-Received-From: 193.149.48.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175445 Archived-At: [ Cc: changed to emacs-devel@gnu.org ] Hello, Stefan. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 02:04:37PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > This is going to make Glenn unhappy. I posted it via Usenet, for lack > > of getting a CC of my original bug report to which I could've replied. > IIUC by default you don't get a Cc, indeed. > But you do receive a acknowledgment, instead, which should work fine > for replying. It's fine for the address, but doesn't contain the text one wants to reply to. > Maybe the acknowledgment should contain the original > report as an attachment (or does it already? I can't remember and > don't have one on hand). > I'd expect that many users would be confused if they received an > automatic Cc: for their bug-reports. We get an automatic Cc: for posts to emacs-devel, and that doesn't seem to confuse people. Well, it confused me, because I thought we did usually get automatic Cc:'s for bug-gnu-emacs too. It seems we don't, and haven't done for a long time. It would seem the only practicable way to participate in bug-gnu-emacs threads is to be subscribed to the mailing list. There seems to be no other way (aside from NNTP posting) that one gets the addresses and the text together. I don't understand the bit in .../admin/notes/bugtracker that says "We generally don't assume anyone who posts to a list is subscribed to it, so we cc everyone on replies.", which seems to contradict the bit which says "NB this [replying to 123@debbugs.gnu.org] only sends mail to the bug-list, it does NOT send a CC to the original bug submitter.". > Stefan -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).