From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ELPAing all the GNU manuals Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:48:47 +0000 Message-ID: <20140928124847.GD3157@acm.acm> References: <87tx3st7cs.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <20140928104735.GB3157@acm.acm> <87lhp4knro.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87oau0t2yy.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411908904 12000 80.91.229.3 (28 Sep 2014 12:55:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nic Ferrier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 28 14:54:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XYE08-0006oK-8q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:54:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59697 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYE07-0002Q2-U3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:54:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37981) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYDzl-0002Pd-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:54:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYDzg-0006hI-0k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:54:33 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:12784 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYDzf-0006fA-Mv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:54:27 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 23039 invoked by uid 3782); 28 Sep 2014 12:54:21 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD951AB19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.81.171.25]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:54:20 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 4516 invoked by uid 1000); 28 Sep 2014 12:48:47 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87oau0t2yy.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 8.x X-Received-From: 193.149.48.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174767 Archived-At: Hello again, Nic. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 12:10:45PM +0100, Nic Ferrier wrote: > David Kastrup writes: > > Alan Mackenzie writes: > >> You'll get one more non-authoritative place to obtain all these > >> manuals, and from this place they're not going to be up to date, > >> unless you figure out some mechanism of keeping them up to date. > >> Keeping them up to date is going to be a lot of work. > > Uh, I don't _want_ my info manuals to be up to date. I want them to > > correspond to the software version I have installed. I have nothing to > > gain from using copy&paste of some code from a manual that is not yet > > supported by my software. > I've just realized I am asking for permission and I should just be > doing. Another reason for not doing it is it might be bloating ELPA with what it's not really for. This is what has happened at my day job, where our source code repository has become the default place to store anything and everything, like test results and reports on visits to suppliers. The said repositiory has swollen to several 10s of Gigabytes. But I don't know ELPA well enough to judge whether random manuals are appropriate there. Doesn't "ELPA" stand for "elisp "? > But here's one reason why things do go into ELPA. General negativity > being almost always the first reaction on this list. :-) Well, you did explicitly ask for opinions. You got some. > Nic -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).