From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 21:17:34 +0200 Organization: WMI UAM Message-ID: <20140829211734.5194cbac@aga-netbook> References: <87d2bjs6us.fsf@gmail.com> <20140829201133.4ec2831f@aga-netbook> <20140829202748.186a6f10@aga-netbook> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409339896 18365 80.91.229.3 (29 Aug 2014 19:18:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 19:18:16 +0000 (UTC) To: GNU Emacs users list Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 21:18:11 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XNRgW-0008MR-Ir for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 21:18:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43868 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XNRgW-0003ks-3c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:18:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34583) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XNRg8-0003eD-88 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:17:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XNRg2-0005uS-F0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:17:44 -0400 Original-Received: from msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl ([2001:808:114:2::50]:41144) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XNRg2-0005uK-6K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:17:38 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AC846C87 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 21:17:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MBd5RQRtxVoW for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 21:17:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from aga-netbook (unknown [185.13.171.31]) by msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 963A346C7A for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 21:17:36 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.20; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:808:114:2::50 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99526 Archived-At: Dnia 2014-08-29, o godz. 14:34:32 Jai Dayal napisa=C5=82(a): > >Rusi also said "in my experience" >=20 > I don't see how that's relevant. "In my opinion, you are stupid" isn't > really that functionally different in layman speak to "you are > stupid". opinion =E2=89=A0 experience. > >I have to admit that it is the first time I see this definition of > "faith", and I wouldn't agree with it. This closes the discussion (I > hope so at least, I have some work to do, you know). >=20 > It really isn't though. There is a difference between beliefs and > evidenced-based reasoning. Faith is *believing* something to be true > 100% regardless of the evidence. Of course there's a difference, and a huge one indeed. Just as there is a difference between faith and idiocy. Also a huge one. In order to discuss your second claim: (1) agreement on the definition of "evidence" needed (hard) and (2) agreement on the definition of "faith" needed (even harder). Discussion about this =3D fun, useful. Discussion about this with someone who misquotes and offends people =3D not fun, less useful. I'm getting back to my family and my work, bye. Regards, --=20 Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University