From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Proulx Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: problem with https and w3-fetch ... sometimes Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:54:32 -0600 Message-ID: <20140810183903346326343@bob.proulx.com> References: <21479.22692.312849.19240@localhost.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1407718506 17997 80.91.229.3 (11 Aug 2014 00:55:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 00:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: prayner Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 11 02:54:57 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XGdt2-0007zl-UG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 02:54:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33166 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGdt2-0001Fg-KA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:54:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59823) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGdso-0001FL-Us for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:54:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGdsk-0007Gh-K9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:54:42 -0400 Original-Received: from joseki.proulx.com ([216.17.153.58]:44805) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGdsk-0007FH-19 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:54:38 -0400 Original-Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5582184A; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:54:33 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 012532DC3B; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:54:32 -0600 (MDT) Mail-Followup-To: prayner , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <21479.22692.312849.19240@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 216.17.153.58 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99158 Archived-At: Hello Peter, prayner wrote: > please reply directly as well as to the group. Unfortunately several of us forgot to do this and there was some discussion about your problem on the mailing list that did not include you. Although unfortunately none of us who responded knew of your problem or how to address it directly. So that probably doesn't matter anyway. Sorry. You can follow the complete set of responses in this next link to the mailing list archives. This next link goes to your message in the archive and the responses follow it there. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2014-08/msg00108.html However Emanuel Berg wrote this following that sounds hopeful to me: If you'd consider using w3m, or w3m code perhaps still works for you, I have written a lightning-fast system for all kinds of searches - just bind it to a global keystroke, and search (not just with Goggle) from anywhere in Emacs - also, it suggests the region text as default, and has other cool stuff as well. http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/conf/emacs-init/w3m/search.el The link at the end of his response links directly to an emacs lisp file with the code for w3m that he is suggesting you try. Also Stefan Monnier wrote this following sentence: I'd be happy to take patches that make W3 use the open-network-stream function's builtin TLS support (via libgnutls) instead of going through gnutls-cli. That sounds hopeful to me. Someone familiar with emacs lisp and emacs w3 could recode it to avoid the tls network problem. > Can anyone suggest routes to debugging this? I fear that few people are using Emacs W3 these days and perhaps no one on this mailing list is using it. You may need to find an emacs w3 expert elsewhere. I tried your example link with emacs w3m and the full page was rendered okay. I think someone familiar with Emacs W3 code would need to update W3 for whatever changes happened at Google. I think that if w3m works for you then w3m would be much better supported these days than W3. Since w3m is listed as a supported application in the emacspeak task list I would try it next. Either way please write us on the mailing list again and give us an update on things. Bob