From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rich Felker Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dumper problems and a possible solutions Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:10:55 -0400 Message-ID: <20140626151055.GN179@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <83wqc4q0xl.fsf@gnu.org> <20140625190333.GZ179@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20140625202403.GB179@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20140625220758.GE179@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <53AB8D50.5020005@yandex.ru> <20140626041434.GH179@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <53ABA277.7040107@yandex.ru> <83ha37pvay.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1403796686 20906 80.91.229.3 (26 Jun 2014 15:31:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Dmitry Antipov , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 26 17:31:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X0Bdo-00088e-Sd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:31:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45222 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0BL7-00038W-Vt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:11:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35095) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0BKP-00021P-Of for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:11:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0BKJ-000183-KF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:11:09 -0400 Original-Received: from 216-12-86-13.cv.mvl.ntelos.net ([216.12.86.13]:44467 helo=brightrain.aerifal.cx) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0BKC-000169-NI; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:10:56 -0400 Original-Received: from dalias by brightrain.aerifal.cx with local (Exim 3.15 #2) id 1X0BKB-00023G-00; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:10:55 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83ha37pvay.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 216.12.86.13 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:172755 Archived-At: On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 06:03:33PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 08:32:55 +0400 > > From: Dmitry Antipov > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > What do you think about this project: http://dmtcp.sourceforge.net/index.html? > > > > From their point of view, Emacs dumping is just a checkpointing in > > the very special moment (when all Lisp libraries are loaded). > > Yes, but their main focus is to preserve the system-side parts of the > program, like IP buffers and file descriptors, something that we > certainly don't want. Indeed, this is why I consider emacs-style dumping and checkpointing as essentially different problem domains. Rich