From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Stefan <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r116461: Connect electric-indent-mode up with CC Mode. Bug #15478.
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 21:21:17 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140326212117.GB3787@acm.acm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvvbv3cba5.fsf-monnier+emacsdiffs@gnu.org>
Hello, Stefan.
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 09:54:40PM -0400, Stefan wrote:
> >> > A mode-dependent or buffer-local dependent setting, as well as, rather
> >> > than instead of.
> >> We have that: electric-indent-local-mode and electric-indent-inhibit.
> > OK, for electric-indent-local-mode, which is gradually becoming
> > prominent. But I thought electric-indent-inhibit was a variable for major
> > modes, not users - a mode initialisation thing, rather than a user
> > configuration variable.
> Indeed electric-indent-inhibit is not meant as a user-config.
> And electric-indent-mode is not meant as a buffer-local config.
> So what? There is electric-indent-local-mode which is meant as
> a buffer-local user-config.
> So what is the problem? Please tell precisely what feature you miss
> rather than just criticize the existing ones.
I seem to have lost the thread here. Maybe there aren't any.
> >> Lack of patch implementing this (supposed) simple change?
> > Here is what I propose, and am willing to do:
> > 1. For electric indentation:
> > a - Restore `newline' and `newline-and-indent' to their traditional
> > functionality, and remove `electric-newline-and-maybe-indent'.
> > b - Simplify `electric-indent-post-self-insert-function' such that it
> > reindents only the line on which the self-inserting character is
> > typed.
> > c - Reform `electric-indent-local-mode' as a first-class minor mode and
> > `electric-indent-mode' as a global version of it.
> > 2. For making RET indent the new line in programming modes:
> > a - Bind RET to `newline-and-indent' and C-j to `newline' in
> > `prog-mode-map' and possibly in certain other major mode maps (to be
> > discussed).
> > b - (Maybe) create a minor mode to restore RET and C-j to traditional
> > bindings.
> > The above will leave electric-indent-mode functioning pretty much as it
> > currently does. What do you say?
> I want to keep electric-indent-mode as a global mode that determines
> whether certain self-inserting keys (such as RET and others) auto-indent.
How is this not satisfied by e-i-m being a define-globalized-minor-mode?
With the current setup, we have a rather contorted relationship between
e-i-m and e-i-local-m, with buffer local copies of electric-indent-mode
popping into and out of existence.
What about the rest of my suggestion?
> Stefan
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2014-02-18 0:11 ` [Emacs-diffs] trunk r116461: Connect electric-indent-mode up with CC Mode. Bug #15478 Stefan Monnier
2014-02-22 18:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-02-25 3:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-28 19:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-01 15:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-02 11:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-04 3:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-08 22:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-09 1:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-09 12:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-10 3:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-10 6:59 ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-10 12:24 ` João Távora
2014-03-10 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-16 22:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-17 15:48 ` Stefan
2014-03-19 22:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-20 1:46 ` Stefan
2014-03-20 8:35 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-03-21 8:24 ` João Távora
2014-03-22 13:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-22 16:14 ` Stefan
2014-03-22 20:19 ` David Caldwell
2014-03-22 22:05 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-22 22:32 ` David Caldwell
2014-03-24 1:13 ` Stefan
2014-03-22 22:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-24 1:37 ` Stefan
2014-03-24 22:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-25 1:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-26 20:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-27 8:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-30 14:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-31 17:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-04-03 21:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-25 1:54 ` Stefan
2014-03-26 21:21 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2014-03-27 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-30 11:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-30 16:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-22 23:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-24 1:39 ` Stefan
2014-03-24 6:59 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-24 9:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-24 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24 17:29 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-24 17:39 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-24 17:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-24 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-25 1:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 3:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24 18:32 ` Stefan
2014-03-25 1:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 7:44 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-25 8:08 ` Steinar Bang
2014-03-25 16:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-25 17:08 ` Steinar Bang
2014-03-25 17:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 19:28 ` Steinar Bang
2014-03-25 19:49 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-25 19:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 13:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-27 7:51 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-24 21:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
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