From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Trunk still not open Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:42:02 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140314114201.GA13025@thyrsus.com> References: <6xwqfxhl88.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83txb1mcsy.fsf@gnu.org> <87siqlku0i.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1394797332 10833 80.91.229.3 (14 Mar 2014 11:42:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 14 12:42:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WOQVJ-00015p-0d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:42:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44073 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOQVF-0007QS-I8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:42:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42894) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOQV8-0007QG-AQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:42:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOQV1-00012W-IO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:42:10 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:55098 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOQV1-00012R-Eh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:42:03 -0400 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6E823380853; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87siqlku0i.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170353 Archived-At: Stephen J. Turnbull : > All very true, but practically speaking this has to be decided at the > project level, and accompanied by a no-push-without-required-docs > policy. +1 for a no-push without documentation policy. I'll go further than that. I'll assert that people who write features without documentating them are being irresponsible and lazy and should be ashamed of themselves. Only when that attitude is common and there is real peer pressure against this kind of sloppy work will good behavior be likely to become normal. -- Eric S. Raymond