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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: key-binding for cycle-spacing
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 06:11:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140130061144.GA2801@acm.acm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <id8utyurdb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>

Hi, Glenn.

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 09:37:36PM -0500, Glenn Morris wrote:
> Alan Mackenzie wrote:

> >> If you have not used it, the first time you call it in a consecutive
> >> sequence, it acts like `just-one-space'.

> > Not quite.  It's more complicated than that.

> Please say how (were you referring to Johan's point?), otherwise this is
> not helpful.

If you type M-9 M-SPC, with `just-one-space' you'll end up with 9 spaces.
With `cycle-spacing', you'll usually get 9, sometime you'll get zero.

> > `cycle-spacing' has lots of complicated edge cases.

> Could you give say two examples of such cases?

One is above.  A second one is what happens if you give a different
argument on the second invocation from the first.  A third one is what
happens when there's just a tab in the buffer, which occupies one visible
space.

> You could avoid all the extra functionality by simply not using the
> command more than once in a row (a no-op for just-one-space).

Not quite.  The first time round, `cycle-spacing''s behaviour is
different according to how much space is already there.

> > It seems to violate the KISS principle.

> So do many things. cc-bytecomp is a favourite of mine.

Yes, there are many things in CC Mode which are complicated, and believe
me, I suffer because of it.  But `cycle-spacing' is complicated at the
basic user level and doesn't seem to have any utility.

> > Please keep M-SPC bound to `just-one-space'.

> For ever, or for now?

For ever.  :-)

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-30  6:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-29 17:15 key-binding for cycle-spacing Glenn Morris
2014-01-29 17:21 ` Bastien
2014-01-29 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-29 18:35   ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-29 18:46     ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-29 18:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-30  2:33       ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-31 22:36       ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-29 19:18 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-01-29 19:53   ` David Kastrup
2014-01-29 20:28 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-01-30  2:37   ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-30  6:11     ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2014-01-31 22:40   ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-31 22:55     ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-01-31 23:35       ` Tassilo Horn
2014-02-10 13:45   ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-02-10 12:19     ` [PATCH] Make `cycle-spacing' behave more like `just-one-space' if called once Michal Nazarewicz
2014-03-27 14:27       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-28 16:29         ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-01-29 20:30 ` key-binding for cycle-spacing Johan Bockgård
2014-01-30  2:32   ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-30 14:09 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-30 15:21   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-30 23:23     ` Richard Stallman
2014-02-10 13:09     ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-02-10 13:06 ` [PATCH] Make `cycle-spacing' behave more like `just-one-space' if colled once Michal Nazarewicz

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