From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Goals for repo conversion day Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 08:22:15 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140127132215.GA1602@thyrsus.com> References: <20140125062551.GA2554@thyrsus.com> <83bnz0cxp8.fsf@gnu.org> <20140125140637.GA5631@thyrsus.com> <83vbx8azss.fsf@gnu.org> <20140125160124.GA8171@thyrsus.com> <83ppngasor.fsf@gnu.org> <20140125210132.GB13305@thyrsus.com> <83zjmiabsr.fsf@gnu.org> <20140127003312.GA20522@thyrsus.com> <8738k92123.fsf@igel.home> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390828952 29683 80.91.229.3 (27 Jan 2014 13:22:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 27 14:22:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W7m97-0006Vv-OP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:22:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59544 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7m97-00064K-9c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 08:22:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52065) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7m8y-0005vW-QQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 08:22:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7m8u-0005Ga-0W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 08:22:28 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:56750 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7m8n-0005FQ-9a; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 08:22:17 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 55CC8382767; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 08:22:16 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8738k92123.fsf@igel.home> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169164 Archived-At: Andreas Schwab : > There is one more thing in the history that may be worth fixing, though > it may lead to quite a bit of manual work. Before emacs switched to CVS > the sources were kept in RCS, and files were deleted by renaming the RCS > file prefixing its name with "=" (to keep the history, since RCS doesn't > have the concept of an attic like CVS). The obstacle is that there is > no record of this deletion except in the ChangeLog file, and at that > time the ChangeLog files weren't kept in RCS (they were versioned by > numbered backups only). So in order to find the exact point in time > when the file has been deleted for real one would have to grep the > ChangeLog file for mentioning the deletion and look up the surrounding > text in the commit log. For example, the file lisp/speedbspec.el only > exists as lisp/=speedbspec.el in the current history, added in commit > 73bf48f. The next mentioning of the string "speedbspec.el" was in > commit ab18f00, which corresponds to the point where the file was > deleted. The corresponding changelog file (lisp/ChangeLog.7) has this > entry: > > 1998-07-10 Eric M. Ludlam > > * speedbspec.el: Deleted; now integrated into speedbar.el. > * speedbar.el: More commentary. > > Note that the first line of the entry isn't mentioned in commit ab18f00, > but we now know that the file was deleted here. The next commit > touching this file is 1c3e7fb with the message "properly mark Attic > files as deleted", where the file was finally deleted from the tree. > > Andreas. Yuck. Fortunately, I have a search primitive that will find all these instances. -- Eric S. Raymond