From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Goals for repo conversion day Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:54:01 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140125195401.GA13305@thyrsus.com> References: <20140124162937.8699D38155C@snark.thyrsus.com> <87r47xs552.fsf@igel.home> <20140124170751.GA23376@thyrsus.com> <87mwils3b3.fsf@igel.home> <20140124185429.GA25191@thyrsus.com> <83k3dpcbpe.fsf@gnu.org> <20140125062551.GA2554@thyrsus.com> <83bnz0cxp8.fsf@gnu.org> <20140125140637.GA5631@thyrsus.com> <87fvocdmh0.fsf@zigzag.favinet> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390679647 31710 80.91.229.3 (25 Jan 2014 19:54:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:54:07 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 25 20:54:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W79J1-0007AE-UM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:54:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52366 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W79J1-0003Fs-HG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:54:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42033) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W79Iu-0003FY-4d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:54:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W79Ip-0003UY-55 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:54:08 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:43295 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W79Ip-0003UP-0z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:54:03 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ED2BB3806AA; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:54:01 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87fvocdmh0.fsf@zigzag.favinet> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169078 Archived-At: --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thien-Thi Nguyen : > (a) Seamless history browsing. >=20 > This is false fruit. Archeologists LIKE the seams. That is true. But beware of misleading analogies! Archeologists like the seams mainly because stratigraphy helps them date things. This is a pr= oblem historians looking through a version-control repository won't have. > Smoothing the repo > (possible) but not the external references into the repo (impossible) is > at best a half-assed "solution", at worst a ridiculous and never-ending > font of WOMBAT laments. I think the best we can hope for is a decent > map (and of course nice Emacs-based tools for grokking it in full :-D). We will have a decent map. Whether anyone cares enough to build those tools is another question. > If these can be achieved w/o undue repo futzing, that would be best. I intend to publish the conversion script here for review well before it is applied; you will be able to judge for yourself whether it is "undue", and suggest improvements. --=20 Eric S. Raymond --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFS5BZZrfUW04Qh8RwRAtCXAJwKeg1y4PuEafZgk8j/SZqeLQSxdgCcD6dl APCHfVA3PFD7VE6HC7U02ws= =OCOB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt--