From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16491: 24.3.50; ?REGRESSION: `defadvice' doc removed from Elisp manual Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:11:11 +0000 Message-ID: <20140122221111.GA3185@acm.acm> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390428916 31728 80.91.229.3 (22 Jan 2014 22:15:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16491@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 22 23:15:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W664u-0001fK-SA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 23:15:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37813 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W664u-0004Vl-EE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:15:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60705) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W664k-0004TK-N6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:15:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W664d-0004BV-8X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:15:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47013) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W664d-00049l-5S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:15:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W664c-0005HX-OE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:15:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Mackenzie Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16491 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16491-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16491.139042886720232 (code B ref 16491); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:15:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16491) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2014 22:14:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32799 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6643-0005GG-DG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:14:27 -0500 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:30922 helo=mail.muc.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6640-0005G4-1a for 16491@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:14:25 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 15508 invoked by uid 3782); 22 Jan 2014 22:14:22 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD951B356.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.81.179.86]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 23:14:21 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 4884 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Jan 2014 22:11:11 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:83902 Archived-At: On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 09:31:07PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > At the very least, it [documentation of defadvice] should be > > available as an Info manual distributed with Emacs. > No, we don't document everything, and since documenting is advertising > we only document those things which we want people to use. How about documenting the things those people want to use? I, for one, need defadvice (in CC Mode), and the message coming out is that the upcoming Emacs might not be an optimal development platform the way the current Emacs is. Also, how are we encouraging people to convert defadvice to the new replacement functions if they can't easily access the former's documentation? > Stefan -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).