From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mopre fun with vcswitness Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 15:31:40 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140112203140.GA19193@thyrsus.com> References: <20140112200736.C29B33811D4@snark.thyrsus.com> <87zjn1ar8z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389558711 22393 80.91.229.3 (12 Jan 2014 20:31:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 20:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 12 21:31:58 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W2RhO-0006Yz-I8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 21:31:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39378 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2RhO-0005fa-3Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 15:31:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53956) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2RhF-0005Ub-U9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 15:31:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2RhB-0005Vz-NZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 15:31:49 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:59853 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2Rh7-0005VA-3S; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 15:31:41 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 70D813811D4; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 15:31:40 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87zjn1ar8z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168237 Archived-At: David Kastrup : > > VCSWITNESS: $(srcdir)/../.bzr/checkout/dirstate > > > > While this is nonempty, it's not going to work either. > > I don't see that. I believe you. Which just increases my distrust of this code. You and I and Eli are running in environments we think ought not to be significantly different (in-place builds) and yet we get at least two and possibly three different behaviors (Eli hasn't reported his exactly enough for me to be sure). To add to the fun, I think this is different behavior than I was previously seeing from putatively identical code. There's got to be some hidden state we're all missing. -- Eric S. Raymond