From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tag cleanup Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 08:49:22 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140109134922.GB6290@thyrsus.com> References: <20140109053729.E9DC43805F2@snark.thyrsus.com> <83a9f5ej2b.fsf@gnu.org> <20140109112407.GA4818@thyrsus.com> <21198.42266.904937.585396@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389275376 6371 80.91.229.3 (9 Jan 2014 13:49:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:49:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 09 14:49:43 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W1FzQ-0001hQ-OS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 14:49:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52018 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1FzQ-00078X-9m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:49:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34359) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1FzI-00071q-TH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:49:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1FzE-0002nx-8t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:49:32 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:38100 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1Fz9-0002nO-2J; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:49:23 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BAEF03803D4; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 08:49:22 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <21198.42266.904937.585396@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167905 Archived-At: Ulrich Mueller : > In Gentoo, we have a "live" ebuild for Emacs that fetches from the > upstream VCS repository. When fetching from git, we use shallow clones > by default, because history is not interesting for this use case. > > Obtaining the raw SHA1 (with "git rev-parse HEAD" or similar) will > still work for shallow clones, while "git describe" won't. > > There's a related downstream bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/489100 > Quoting from there: "Is this really worth non-shallow fetches? We're > talking about increasing overhead seriously for the sake of pretty > version string." I'm passing this question on to you. ;-) > > Ulrich Thank you. I consider that this resolves the describe-vs.-SHA1 question. Not in a way that I like, mind you, but that's life. -- Eric S. Raymond