From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: esr@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Move to git is imminent - awaiting Stefan's approval Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 11:51:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20140106165108.B6BF4380865@snark.thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389027082 17209 80.91.229.3 (6 Jan 2014 16:51:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 16:51:22 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 06 17:51:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0DOd-00021f-4I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 17:51:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36169 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0DOc-0004lb-OZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:51:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35104) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0DOV-0004ib-5B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:51:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0DOQ-0007ee-1C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:51:15 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:39826 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0DOP-0007eR-TK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:51:09 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B6BF4380865; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 11:51:08 -0500 (EST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167479 Archived-At: The thread on the git move proposal is showing signs of exhaustion and terminal topic drift. We can ask Karl Fogel for a poll count but I think we all know how that would turn out; the pro-git vote has been overwhelming. I have asked Andreas Schwab and he reports the Savannah git mirror ready for production use. Having examined it, I agree. Andreas and I have discussed the switchover and believe it should consist of the following steps: 1. Andreas will turn off bzr commit mirroring. 2. Andreas will enter a small documentation commit recording the changeover. 3. Andreas will announce on the dev list that the git repo is live for developer pushes. 4. I will do the work required to update /etc and /admin for git use over the following few days. I am now recommending that Andreas perform steps 1-3 at his convenience, no sooner than 2014-01-06T11:59:00 and no later than 2014-01-07T11:59:00 - that is, sometime tomorrow. Consideration of workflow changes is explicitly deferred. Developers should continue writing ChangeLog entries as per established custom. I want to extend a thank you to everyone who participated in the debate, *including* the anti-git dissenters, for generally sticking to real issues and maintaining civility. Stefan, please either (a) confirm that you as the official maintainer are authorizing this, or (b) put a hold on it and explain what additional steps or conditions you deem necessary before we move. -- Eric S. Raymond A ``decay in the social contract'' is detectable; there is a growing feeling, particularly among middle-income taxpayers, that they are not getting back, from society and government, their money's worth for taxes paid. The tendency is for taxpayers to try to take more control of their finances... -- IRS Strategic Plan, (May 1984)