From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Move to git, now that bzr is no longer a req. Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 04:57:38 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140104095738.GA22331@thyrsus.com> References: <20140102095347.6834E381D0C@snark.thyrsus.com> <87fvp6bdd9.fsf_-_@ktab.red-bean.com> <8761q1ljny.fsf@gmail.com> <20140103175006.GE17261@thyrsus.com> <87iou0t72n.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388829471 2859 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2014 09:57:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 09:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com, Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Bastien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 04 10:57:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzNzO-0006H3-9M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 10:57:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53716 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzNzN-0000yg-TB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 04:57:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59745) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzNzI-0000yb-68 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 04:57:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzNzD-00078p-VX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 04:57:48 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:43840 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzNz9-00078R-8q; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 04:57:39 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2F794380E1C; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 04:57:38 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87iou0t72n.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167267 Archived-At: Bastien : > Richard Stallman writes: > > > Our ChangeLog files are very useful in debugging. > > They complement the diffs between versions of the source files. > > I think everyone agrees with this. I don't. I think Changelogs are, while not completely without value, not worth the maintainance load when your VCS has changesets. I've seem the same objection from others in the discussion. But this is a separate argument from which DVCS we should be using. -- Eric S. Raymond