From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Apologia for bzr Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 03:28:57 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388824142 17888 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2014 08:29:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 08:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Toby Cubitt , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 04 09:29:10 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzMbV-0005OK-SX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 09:29:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53551 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzMbV-0000jy-G7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 03:29:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42636) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzMbO-0000jg-7J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 03:29:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzMbK-0006zt-0f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 03:29:02 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:43486 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzMbJ-0006zh-SW; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 03:28:57 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 41A69380E1C; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 03:28:57 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167262 Archived-At: Richard Stallman : > But even though we did not do anything wrong, it is unfortunate for us > nonetheless. If it is possible to change Emacs to use some standard > modern terms instead of its current terms, it might be worth doing, > even if it means a series of renaming spread over a period of years. Mostly there *aren't* any "standard modern terms", because there are no other editors in which there is so much decoupling between the local equivalents of our core concepts that they need to be described separately. There's a parallel with git jargon here... -- Eric S. Raymond