From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Apologia for bzr Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 15:54:47 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20140103205447.GD19022@thyrsus.com> References: <20140102172804.GB13245@thyrsus.com> <83vby2xo6x.fsf@gnu.org> <20140102183432.GB13506@thyrsus.com> <83sit6xgfg.fsf@gnu.org> <8761q18kni.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.org> <838uuxxsxu.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqihw42f.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqiglrze.fsf@yandex.ru> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388782533 24299 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2014 20:55:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 20:55:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , tsdh@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 03 21:55:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBmN-0008VI-5Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 21:55:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51796 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBmM-0002Nc-Ef for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:55:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52929) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBmA-0002Jw-LH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:55:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBm6-0005R4-GP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:55:26 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:40176 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzBm2-0005QN-1i; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:55:18 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6EF99380E1C; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 15:54:47 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87wqiglrze.fsf@yandex.ru> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167233 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov : > Stefan Monnier writes: > > > Using Git won't magically give us any new blood. But using Bzr is > > a hindrance. A few years ago, users seemed happy to use Hg for one > > project, Git for another, DaRCS for yet a third, etc.... > > > > Nowadays most users complain when they have to learn another tool. > > It could mean the users are getting more spoiled, or it could indicate > increasing mainstream acceptance of Emacs, when it attracts more users > who don't really like to learn new tools. It could mean any of those things. What I think it means is that git has achieved ubiquity and become part of most peoples' notion of a baseline toolkit, in the same way that C compilers did after about 1985. I don't think it has much of anything to do with the acceptance level of Emacs. -- Eric S. Raymond