From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: electric-indent-mode: abolition of `newline' function is not the Right Thing.
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 10:13:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131013101325.GA2621@acm.acm> (raw)
Hi, Emacs.
`electric-indent-post-self-insert-function' effectively redefines
`newline' to `newline-and-indent'. So, whilst `electric-indent-mode' is
enabled, there is no easy way to invoke the traditional functionality of
`newline'. This is a Bad Thing.
I discovered this whilst trying `electric-indent-mode' in Text Mode.
I have a command which starts a new paragraph thusly:
(i) It calls `newline' and inserts, e.g. "(vi) ".
(ii) It calls `fill-paragraph' for the text in the new paragraph.
Unfortunately, `newline' indents the "(vi) " to the level of the
old paragraph, so that the following `fill-paragraph' joins the old and
new paragraphs together. This is bad.
`newline-and-indent' exists as its own command, traditionally bound to
C-j. A better way for `electric-indent-mode' to achieve the effect it
wants is to get users to rebind <CR> to `newline-and-indent' or suggest
the use of C-j.
`newline' must continue to exist, both as a command and as a lisp
function.
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
next reply other threads:[~2013-10-13 10:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-13 10:13 Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2013-10-13 13:23 ` electric-indent-mode: abolition of `newline' function is not the Right Thing Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13 14:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-13 16:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13 17:28 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-14 12:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-16 18:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-15 18:28 ` martin rudalics
2013-10-16 17:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 17:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-16 18:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 20:55 ` chad
2013-10-16 21:07 ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-18 16:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 23:22 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-16 18:34 ` martin rudalics
2013-10-16 19:26 ` Default behaviour of RET Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-16 23:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-17 0:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 17:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-18 19:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 20:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-19 1:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-19 10:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-19 15:07 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-20 14:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-20 22:26 ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-21 2:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-19 22:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-20 15:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-18 16:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-13 20:00 ` electric-indent-mode: abolition of `newline' function is not the Right Thing Matthias Meulien
2013-10-14 13:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-14 13:31 ` Matthias Meulien
2013-10-14 16:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-15 15:54 ` Davis Herring
2013-10-15 20:03 ` Matthias Meulien
2013-10-16 2:44 ` Stefan Monnier
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