Now I've finished nights again for a while I'm back with emacs again, and still trying to track down my problem. When loading emacs-gtk I get this in the mini-buffer - 'Symbol's value as variable is void: package-subdirectory-regexp'. This is on 'GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2)' I get this appearing in the message pane - 'Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading `/home/boudiccas/.emacs': Symbol's value as variable is void: yes To ensure normal operation, you should investigate and remove the cause of the error in your initialization file. Start Emacs with the `--debug-init' option to view a complete error backtrace.' So far I've got a backtrace - 'Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable package-subdirectory-regexp) package-load-all-descriptors() package-initialize() command-line() normal-top-level()' and these packages loaded - 'Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/00debian-vars.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs-snapshot/site-start.d/00emacs-snapshot-common.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/20apel.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs-snapshot/site-start.d/35elib-startup.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50a2ps.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50anything-el.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50auto-complete-el.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50auto-install-el.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50autoconf.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50bbdb.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50bhl.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictem.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictionaries-common.el (source)... Skipping dictionaries-common setup for emacs-snapshot Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictionaries-common.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictionary-el.el (source)... Loading dictionary-init...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictionary-el.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50e2wm.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50emacs-calfw.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50emacs-goodies-el.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50emacs-window-layout.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50erc.el (source)... Loading erc-auto...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50erc.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50evernote-mode.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50geiser.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50gnus-bonus-el.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50gnuserv.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50goby.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50howm.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50icicles.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50latex-cjk-common.el (source)... Loading cjk-enc...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50latex-cjk-common.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50latex-cjk-thai.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50magit.el (source)... Package magit removed but not purged. Skipping setup. Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50magit.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50mmm-mode.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50muse-el.el (source)... Loading /usr/share/emacs-snapshot/site-lisp/muse-el/muse-autoloads.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50muse-el.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50org-mode.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50plywood.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs-snapshot/site-start.d/50psgml-init.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50psvn.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50python-docutils.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50rabbit-mode.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50rdtool-elisp.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50remembrance-agent.el (source)... Package remembrance-agent removed but not purged. Skipping setup. Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50remembrance-agent.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50sawfish.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50thailatex.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50whizzytex.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50windows-el.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50yatex-init.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/51debian-el.el (source)... Package debian-el removed but not purged. Skipping setup. Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/51debian-el.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/51planner-el.el (source)... Loading /usr/share/emacs-snapshot/site-lisp/planner-el/planner-autoloads.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/51planner-el.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/52remember-el.el (source)... Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/remember-el/remember-autoloads.el (source)...done Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/52remember-el.el (source)...done Now loading: cal-loaddefs Now loading: calc-loaddefs.el Now loading: /usr/share/emacs-snapshot/site-lisp/emacs-goodies-el/color-theme-library.el Loading /usr/share/emacs-snapshot/site-lisp/emacs-goodies-el/color-theme-library.el (source)...done Now loading: /usr/share/emacs-snapshot/site-lisp/emacs-goodies-el/color-theme-library.elc Loading /usr/share/emacs-snapshot/site-lisp/emacs-goodies-el/color-theme-library.elc...done Now loading: esh-groups Now loading: /home/boudiccas/.abbrev_defs Entering debugger... Visual-Line mode enabled' I've tried rebuilding my .emacs and it still occurs, I think that its related to the evernote-mode, so I'll try and look at that later on today, hopefully. But if anyone can give me pointers or suggestions, I'd be very greatful. :) Thanks Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/ efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/ my git repo = https://github.com/boudiccas/dots Debian stable, Fluxbox 1.3.5, LibreOffice 4.1.0.4 Registered Linux user 561944