From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Masatake YAMATO Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Drop-down menus, popup menus, and popup dialogs supported on TTYs Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 03:06:57 +0900 (JST) Organization: Red Hat Japan, Inc. Message-ID: <20131012.030657.99681946835130885.yamato@redhat.com> References: <8338oaqnbs.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381514839 16926 80.91.229.3 (11 Oct 2013 18:07:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: dmoncayo@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 11 20:07:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VUh7T-0001QJ-6u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 20:07:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55723 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUh7S-0002o3-N3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:07:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60817) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUh7L-0002np-Fp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:07:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUh7G-0003cI-CE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:07:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:42299) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUh77-0003ZG-JJ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:07:01 -0400 Original-Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9BI6x4h010016 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:06:59 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (vpn-239-231.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.239.231]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r9BI6v3u008383; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:06:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.11 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 209.132.183.28 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164109 Archived-At: On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:01:23 +0200, Dani Moncayo wrote: >>> > Hmm... do people really want to have menus when the menu bar is turned >>> > off? I thought they disable the menu bar because they don't want any >>> > menus at all. >>> >>> The extra line is only useful to tell you what menus are available and >>> for clicking on it. If you use F10, the "click on it" part is not >>> applicable, and maybe you don't care to see what menus are available >>> before deciding to hit F10. >>> >>> > But if this is what people want, I don't mind. >>> > Opinions? >>> >>> I think it makes a lot of sense. >> >> OK, then Masatake, please commit your change. > > This isn't yet committed, is it? I committed. See http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/trunk/revision/114611 > In addition and related to the above change, I think that it would be > very convenient to allow closing (exiting) the menu also with F10. I > intuitively try to do it and, after seeing that it does nothing, go > for `C-g'. ... I remember my old work, on demand menu-bar activation. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2012-06/msg00324.html Masatake YAMATO > -- > Dani Moncayo