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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Josh <josh@foxtail.org>
Cc: 15478@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#15478: cc-mode does not obey electric-indent-mode
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 17:55:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131009175544.GB2610@acm.acm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANdFEAEp0s3ZJVDZgOBE-pQL5=Z3OgU6m3X+SoPRpePULjUHWg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Josh.

On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 02:23:20PM -0700, Josh wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> wrote:

> > >   (or c-force-electric-flag electric-layout-mode electric-indent-mode)
> > That's not going to gain anything, since `c-force-electric-flag' would
> > need to default to t to preserve existing behaviour.

> The need to preserve existing behavior is not a given.

No, but there haven't been arguments that CC Mode's default for electric
indentation is wrong, and there certainly hasn't been a bug report saying
that.  Users seem to be happy about the current default.  I'm convinced
that electric indentation switched on is the right default for CC Mode,
for the same reasons that gave rise to its invention in the first place,
in all probability.

> The above change would cause the (initial) enablement of electric
> behavior in CC Mode to be predicated on global electricity enablement,
> which is the subject of this bug.

> > > .... Even so, it would be a vast improvement for newbies who do not
> > > want this behavior.

> > Yes, but it would be undesirable for those other newbies who do want
> > automatic indentation.  "Newby" here means those unfamiliar with
> > `c-toggle-electric-state' and `electric-indent-mode'.

> Identifying the right set of defaults is important and likely to be an
> extensive discussion in itself, but one that should take place as part
> of some other bug.  This bug is about the fact that CC Mode disregards
> configuration that is documented to be global.

But the solution is not to disregard other bits of documented
configuration instead.  Local, specific configurations generally
supersede global, general configurations.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).





  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-09 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-28 18:10 bug#15478: cc-mode does not obey electric-indent-mode Stefan Monnier
2013-09-28 20:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-09-29  3:02   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-29  9:10     ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-09-30 18:23       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-02 20:07         ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-03  1:50           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-03  2:46             ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-03  4:10               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-03  4:13                 ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-03  4:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-03  5:56                 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-10-03  6:31                   ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-03 15:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-03 13:15                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-10-03 15:04                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-03 17:40                     ` Andreas Röhler
2013-10-03  9:45                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-03 14:02                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-03 17:45                   ` Andreas Röhler
2013-10-03 10:56             ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-03 14:32               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-04 21:21                 ` Josh
2013-10-05 16:50                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-06 17:45                     ` Josh
2013-10-07 13:11                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-07 21:23                         ` Josh
2013-10-09 17:55                           ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2013-10-03 11:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-03 17:43   ` Andreas Röhler
2013-10-05 17:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-06  1:10   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-06  2:55     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-06  5:04       ` Josh
2013-10-07  9:39         ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]         ` <20131007093859.GA3859@acm.acm>
2013-10-07 16:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-07 21:17             ` Josh
2013-10-08  6:49               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-08 15:59                 ` Josh
2013-10-09 17:32               ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]               ` <20131009173206.GA2610@acm.acm>
2013-10-10 19:11                 ` Josh
2013-10-06 17:01       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-12 14:54         ` bug#15596: Let's improve the default workings of electric-indent-mode Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-12 16:35           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13 12:36             ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-14  2:16               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-07 10:30     ` bug#15478: cc-mode does not obey electric-indent-mode Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]     ` <20131007103041.GB3859@acm.acm>
2013-10-07 16:14       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-07 20:37         ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]         ` <20131007203738.GA3099@acm.acm>
2013-10-07 23:08           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-05 17:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-02-17 19:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found] ` <20140217190249.GB4173@acm.acm>
2014-02-18  0:04   ` Stefan Monnier

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