From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org Tutorials need more structure
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:48:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130928104846.52fbe04c@aga-netbook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EF119E90-532F-4890-991C-0C55691A898E@gmail.com>
Dnia 2013-09-28, o godz. 08:11:23
Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> napisał(a):
> Hi everyone,
>
> today I looked at our tutorial page at
>
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/index.html
>
> and came away with the feeling that that this page has become
> somewhat useless for people who are really new to Org. I think
> the page should start with a section of true recommendations
> for beginners, a path we tell every new users to take in order to
> learn about Org mode.
>
> Can we have a discussion here on how this path should look like?
> When you came to Org-mode as a newby, what were the three resources
> that really made an impression on by being accessible and
> providing feel and promise for digging deeper?
As I hinted in my previous email, there are two cases:
1. Emacs users who are new to Org-mode.
This is basically covered by the manual. Period.
2. People new to Emacs who might want to use it /because/ of Org-mode.
Here we have a huge potential for improvement, so to speak;).
A couple of thoughts:
- Screencasts and videos might be a viable option (even though it is a
bit old, I consider your Google lecture a very good introduction to
Org-mode - a survey of features; it is, however, aimed more at a
power user than a newbie).
- What might be really interesting would be something along the lines
of C-h t. In fact, the Emacs tutorial itself badly needs an update
imho. And a similar thing for Org-mode might be even better. In
fact, though I am quite busy at the moment, I'd be happy to start
thinking about something like this in my free time. What do you
think?
- For new users, there might be an installation instruction /including/
installing Emacs (especially on Windows machines, where it might be
tricky). I think it should be emphasized that (at least in case of
Org-mode) Emacs may be treated more as an application framework,
which incidentally has more text-editing capabilities than, say, edit
boxes of GTK etc. (just a bit more, you know;)), and that Org-mode is
an application running in this particular environment. (Calling it an
Elisp Virtual Machine might be a bit stretching, though;).)
- Last but not least: we are still waiting for Sacha Chua to draw a
sketchnote-based intro to Org-mode;).
> - Carsten
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-28 6:11 Org Tutorials need more structure Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 7:22 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-28 8:37 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 10:30 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-28 11:59 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-28 12:36 ` Eric Schulte
2013-09-28 13:10 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-28 16:02 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-28 17:19 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-10-01 7:59 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-10-01 20:34 ` David Rogers
2013-10-01 21:00 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 8:48 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2013-09-28 10:09 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 14:26 ` Charles Millar
2013-09-28 16:35 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 17:14 ` Ian Barton
2013-09-28 17:43 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 17:48 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 19:06 ` Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
2013-09-28 19:52 ` Thomas S. Dye
2013-09-28 20:50 ` Charles Millar
2013-09-28 21:31 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 21:52 ` John Hendy
2013-09-28 23:14 ` Charles Millar
2013-09-28 23:29 ` Thomas S. Dye
2013-09-29 0:29 ` John Hendy
2013-09-29 7:28 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-30 8:04 ` Alan Schmitt
2013-09-30 17:01 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-09-30 18:36 ` Peter Neilson
2013-09-30 21:07 ` Eduardo Ochs
2013-10-01 8:52 ` Michael Brand
2013-10-01 5:34 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-10-01 8:55 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-10-01 12:40 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-30 17:56 ` Thomas S. Dye
2013-09-29 8:44 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-09-29 15:31 ` Matt Price
2013-09-30 7:25 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-10-01 14:08 ` William Denton
2013-10-02 1:10 ` M
2013-10-02 18:06 ` Alan E. Davis
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2013-09-29 16:43 Rustom Mody
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